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The Swift Boat Blues by Bill O'Reilly {Barf Alert)
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Posted on 08/12/2004 9:09:45 PM PDT by Jenya

The Swift Boat Blues

The partisans are running wild over this Swift Boat business, talk radio is crazy with it and the smell of blood is in the air. John Kerry has made a major deal of his Vietnam War record and now his opponents have opened fire on the Senator's experiences. It's all tawdry and distasteful of course, but let's examine things unemotionally.

First off, I believe Jim Rassmann when he says that Kerry saved his life by pulling him out of a Vietnam river while under fire. Rassmann is a former Green Beret, a former police officer and a long time registered Republican until earlier this year. If he says John Kerry is a hero, nobody should doubt it. Rassmann has earned the right to be trusted and insulting his testimony is way out of line.

But I also believe Steve Gardner, a former Navy gunner who was also present on one of Kerry's Swift Boats. He says the Senator wrote up a false report, neglecting to inform the Navy that he, Gardner, had accidentally shot a Vietnamese child during a firefight. This is a tough one. Gardner is implicating himself and has no reason to do so. But perhaps Kerry was looking out for him by not reporting the incident. Only Kerry knows.

It is very possible to perform heroically on some occasions and do less than admirable things on others. All human beings are flawed and we are capable of both valor and deceit. That's what I think happened here. John Kerry was brave, but was also calculating. His heroism impressed most of his Swift Boat mates, but his civilian anti-war activities and perceived grandstanding also alienated many other Vietnam Vets. And so the battle lines are drawn.

What should we, on the sidelines, make of all this? Well, it's a judgment call. It is absolutely wrong for Americans to condemn Kerry's war record because he demonstrated provable valor. However, those who distrust him do deserve to be heard although facts not emotion should be demanded.

I think the Swift Boat political advertisement calling Kerry a charlatan is in poor taste, and if this kind of thing continues it might well backfire on the Kerry haters. Most Americans are fair minded, and bitter personal attacks do not go down well with folks who are not driven by partisanship. Remember, General Wesley Clark was knocked out of the Presidential sweepstakes when he would not disown Michael Moore's insane remark that President Bush was a "deserter." Mr. Bush received an honorable discharge from the National Guard. Admiral Elmo Zumwalt pinned a medal on John Kerry's chest. The record is the record, unless rock solid proof refutes it.

The lesson here is that blind partisanship is not an attribute. No person or candidate is all good or all bad. In America today, with both sides peddling lies and defamation and spin, it is alarmingly difficult just to get simple facts on which to base a responsible vote.

Somewhere Jack Webb is weeping.


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Hey Mr. O'Bloviator, Why don't you read, Unfit for Command, before you start your spinning.
1 posted on 08/12/2004 9:09:45 PM PDT by Jenya
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To: Jenya

O'Reilly must have a boatload of splinters up his ass from straddling that fence.


2 posted on 08/12/2004 9:11:13 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Jenya

And liberals think this guy is a conservative?


3 posted on 08/12/2004 9:12:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Jenya

This idiot knows he has lost us and is going after the stupid people who still buy his BS.


4 posted on 08/12/2004 9:12:09 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34

BAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFF!

(I feel better now)


5 posted on 08/12/2004 9:13:22 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Jenya

O'Really still thinks the money he found under his pillow as a kid came from the tooth fairy too.


6 posted on 08/12/2004 9:13:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Proud member of the FR Special Ops manuremovers crew .. moving manure&opinion since '96)
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To: Jenya

I thought this place was liberal free... O'Reilly is among the worst of them with his "looking out for the folks nonsense."


7 posted on 08/12/2004 9:13:50 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second)
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To: Jenya

"Bill... you're a putz."

8 posted on 08/12/2004 9:13:56 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Jenya
I think the Swift Boat political advertisement calling Kerry a charlatan is in poor taste, and if this kind of thing continues it might well backfire on the Kerry haters.

Let's see if I understand this statement from Mr. Nospin. If an ad is run questioning Kerry's Viet Nam account, those people running the ad are haters?

Well, that's pretty fair and balanced.

9 posted on 08/12/2004 9:14:38 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Jenya

All the Swift Boat Vets want is the truth. Nothing but the truth.


10 posted on 08/12/2004 9:16:26 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ( Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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O'Reilly is a conservative.

But he's a conservative with a job that requires him to follow a middle of the road "centrist" philosophy.

I think he's waiting for real blood to hit the water before swarming, but at the moment it is a "he said, they say" match.


11 posted on 08/12/2004 9:16:26 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: Jenya
First off, I believe Jim Rassmann when he says that Kerry saved his life by pulling him out of a Vietnam river while under fire

Everyone else who was there said there was no fire after the other boat hit the mine. Rassman says he swam to the bottom to avoid being hit by a boat (but the other boats did not flee like Kerrys').

Why does the media insist on falsehoods??

12 posted on 08/12/2004 9:17:01 PM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: coconutt2000

O"Reilly is NOT a conservative.


13 posted on 08/12/2004 9:17:20 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ( Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Jenya

Sooner or later his ratings will shrivel. Tonight was the last straw for me.


14 posted on 08/12/2004 9:18:17 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: GeronL
Rassmann wouldn't have been able to see anything. He was too busy trying to stay alive by diving to the bottom of the river so the propellers wouldn't get him.
15 posted on 08/12/2004 9:18:49 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ( Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

O'Reilly is a conservative. He's right of center, anti-liberal. But he has a job that requires him to moderate himself in order to ensure that he keeps his job.


16 posted on 08/12/2004 9:19:38 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: coconutt2000

I don't know where your center is, but he is definitely not right of my center.


17 posted on 08/12/2004 9:20:51 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ( Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Jenya
"If he says John Kerry is a hero, nobody should doubt it.."

What a dolt. Maybe Bill can have Mickey Weatherspoon over his house for a steak sometime, and just for safety sake, Dr. McDonald. Both Green Berets, both psychopathic liars and murders. Of course being a police officer and a Republican are irrefutable evidence of honesty and truthfulness.

Maybe his columns are targeted to a semi illiterates and those devoid of history, memory and common sense.

18 posted on 08/12/2004 9:21:07 PM PDT by Leisler (Democrat Plantation Slaves Revolt!)
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To: Jenya
I think the Swift Boat political advertisement calling Kerry a charlatan is in poor taste, and if this kind of thing continues it might well backfire on the Kerry haters.

He's hoping. I've really learned to dislike this guy.
60 vets who were with Kerry at one time or another say Kerry is unfit, yet O'Rielly the "know it all" sides with a billion dollar politician capable of buying any testimony he pleases.
O'Rielly lost me a long time ago with his 24/7 Bush bashing. I suppose he thinks it'll boost his ratings. The last thing on his mind is an American success in Iraq. The better Iraq gets, the dumber he looks.

19 posted on 08/12/2004 9:21:17 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Jenya
I'm so sick of this crap! Just listened to Matthews try to slime O'Neill: who did you vote for? are you a republican? most of the vets with O'Neill are conservative? To hell with trying to find the truth, asking for Krap face to release ALL of his records and settle this. O'reilly and Matthews were squealing to have President Bush release all of his records, not a word about Kerry's!
They don't want an election. They want a media propaganda coronation. Don't know if this rant makes sense...I'm fuming.
20 posted on 08/12/2004 9:22:00 PM PDT by pieces of time
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