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After Crossfire and Hardball Tonight, is There Any Question Remaining? The Media is the Real Enemy.
The Media is the Real Enemy ^ | 8-12-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/12/2004 9:40:42 PM PDT by Bob J

On the 5th I posted an article title The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!. After observing what has happened since and in particular the performance typified by Crossfire and Hardball tonight, is there any question remaining that our primary activism objective needs to be defeating the media hegemony that nourishes the beast?

I've been involved in FReeper activism beginning way back with the March for Justice in '98. I now believe my energies have been nothing but shadow boxing. Every single action that we have undertaken against groups or individuals can trace their existence to an adoring dim media that creates them, props them up and then protects them from damage through propaganda, misdirection and lies.

I think it's time we redirect our efforts to the source that creates, sustains and drives liberalism.

Comments and suggestions?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: enemy; enemywithin; kerry; media; swiftboat; swiftboatvets
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To: skip_intro
"From many responses, I'll go with Occam's Razor -- under what possible set of circumstances are 45% of the US electorate not going to vote Stupid Party each and every time? MSNBCCNNCBSABCNBC could be off the air tomorrow and Stupid Party would still pull 45%."

Could it be media propaganda?

121 posted on 08/12/2004 10:30:13 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: tpaine
Republicans have to come up with some REAL issues to convince that center to vote for them.

Look Tpaine, 82 days is not going to be enough time to appease the unappeasable. If there are not enough "REAL" issues for them then it is a lost cause anyway. If not letting a REAL communist win the Whitehouse enough to vote for Bush then I don't know what a "REAL" reason is.

122 posted on 08/12/2004 10:30:24 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: Williams

We do not have a political party capable of defending the best interests of this great Nation.
105 posted on 08/12/2004 10:23:51 PM PDT by Williams

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Well said bump.


123 posted on 08/12/2004 10:31:49 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Torie
The whole thing cheered me up. I want more, much more

Wow, I wish I had been left with the same impression. Instead, I was almost driven to tears, not easily accomplished with me.

Matthews' hatred was out of proportion to the confidence he claimed to have in the Navy (who awarded the medals) and Kerry's band of brothers (who confirm his stories). But it reminded me of how far the Democrats will go and how yet another generation (in Iraq and Afghanistan) is at risk. Matthews, O'Reilly and all the rest aren't a bit concerned about what a man, who has done what Kerry did in his Viet Nam days and who has betrayed the military again with his votes on Iraq, will do as President while we are at war. That's frightening to me.

124 posted on 08/12/2004 10:32:21 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: StAnDeliver
"Sorry Bob, I find anyone who has a tagline promoting his new Righttalk.com website, then says "I wouldn't bet the farm on the internet." is doin' a little shadowboxing of his own..."

You gotta start somewhere.

125 posted on 08/12/2004 10:32:51 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J

Another approach here would be to organize Pro-Republican ticket demonstrations through the local FR chapters with the assistance of local conservative talk radio. Numbers who show up matter.

We've got to have Bush in the White House and majorities in Congress. Replacements are coming up on the SCOTUS.


126 posted on 08/12/2004 10:33:12 PM PDT by bellevuesbest
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To: Williams

They and their party are all afraid of the media...ergo...


127 posted on 08/12/2004 10:34:05 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Mr.Atos
Liberalism is dying as it should in this current malevolent skin it has donned.

Very good point. Explains the 'desperation' that has risen during this election cycle. A wounded elephant, uh er, donkey, isn't something you want to be stuck in a pen with.

128 posted on 08/12/2004 10:34:19 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: Bob J; kristinn

The 527 ads are also killing us. In Ohio, the 527's democrat ads are more frequent than the kerry and bush ads put together.

Could you do some research on how much the media fund, ACT, the DNC and moveon.org are spending. I think it must be over 100 million. The chairman of progressive insurance has already donated over 14 million to these groups. How much theraza and her surrogates and soros are spending is anyone's guess.


129 posted on 08/12/2004 10:35:08 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: tpaine

Actually, I think all we need do is balance the media to win, with a few other minor issues.


130 posted on 08/12/2004 10:35:21 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Torie
You should have more faith in the American voter to discern BS when it is presented to them.

Torie, I think you're exactly right. I've been listening to various radio shows the past couple of weeks, on the web. Programs I haven't listened to before.

And have been struck with the plain common sense of some of the callers. People just get it. They somehow are just getting it.

In fact, I thought I was listening to people who were aficionados of FR, but they may just have been regular ordinary people, who know BS when they hear it.

131 posted on 08/12/2004 10:35:37 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Kryptonite
Seeing our President and First Lady on LKL tonight more than made up for the sh!tstorm on the shows you mentioned.

I couldn't agree more. He was in the belly of the beast and masterfully dodged the pathetic bullets Larry King was firing by answering truthfully and knowledgeably. He confronts his enemies head-on with his resolve and I have no doubt he will do to Kerry what was done to Albore when they debate.

132 posted on 08/12/2004 10:35:58 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Texasforever
"I have always disliked "freeping" on-line polls BUT DU and other sites are really into it and there is a certain logic to it. It sets perceptions in some minds when you see Kerry wining those polls on a consistent basis. I can't believe I am advocating this but hell let's freep some polls."

Thanks Texasforever, PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING. I believe we can influence perception without sacrificing our honor.

133 posted on 08/12/2004 10:36:58 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Dolphy
Matthews was downright reasonable when you compare him to what Carville did. If we and thousands like us do not back this group of veterans with our voices, money and talents then WE are the cowards.
134 posted on 08/12/2004 10:37:09 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: GeronL

Ha! Must have been subliminal. Didn't even notice it.


135 posted on 08/12/2004 10:37:22 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Bob J; kristinn

The 527 ads are also killing us. In Ohio, the 527's democrat ads are more frequent than the kerry and bush ads put together.

Could you do some research on how much the media fund, ACT, the DNC and moveon.org are spending. I think it must be over 100 million. The chairman of progressive insurance has already donated over 14 million to these groups. How much theraza and her surrogates and soros are spending is anyone's guess.


136 posted on 08/12/2004 10:37:45 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: PhiKapMom
J.C. Watts told my daughter that what we need are more conservative journalists and teachers and less doctors and lawyers.

You sound like J.C.

Well, I'm going to take that as a compliment, because I do admire J.C. Watts a great deal. Thank you!

He really is right, though, and while I can't blame anyone for wanting to take the doctor's salary over the teacher's, we are seeing ample evidence that each profession is valuable in its own way.

Congrats to your kids - and to you for raising them right! Let them know there are a LOT of people cheering them on, and here's hoping that as conservatives they'll have plenty of company in their chosen fields.

137 posted on 08/12/2004 10:39:39 PM PDT by dbwz (CAN THE BAN!)
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To: Bob J

We all need to get out as often as is possible and talk to people in person.

And demonstrate by example.

I'm currently "tutoring" several Coast Guard crew that I see evry week.

2 weren't going to register to vote at all ut have now.

I don't talk politics on the base but I do lead by examle.

They catch on quick.

They know Kerry is a phony.

And they know I was there when Kerry was.


138 posted on 08/12/2004 10:40:37 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops : Present, Past and Future)
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To: Howlin

O'Reilly's all about O'Reilly. He and Kerry are the biggest narcissists and self-promoters of all, and there's some strange realization of that deep inside O'Reilly that's driving him lately.

Sort of a Hitler youth deal in middle age as I see it.


139 posted on 08/12/2004 10:41:20 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Great email!! Thank you for serving our Country.

I too sent an email letting them know in very certain terms how stunned I was with the treatment Chris Matthews gave to John O'Neill.

140 posted on 08/12/2004 10:41:59 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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