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After Crossfire and Hardball Tonight, is There Any Question Remaining? The Media is the Real Enemy.
The Media is the Real Enemy ^ | 8-12-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/12/2004 9:40:42 PM PDT by Bob J

On the 5th I posted an article title The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!. After observing what has happened since and in particular the performance typified by Crossfire and Hardball tonight, is there any question remaining that our primary activism objective needs to be defeating the media hegemony that nourishes the beast?

I've been involved in FReeper activism beginning way back with the March for Justice in '98. I now believe my energies have been nothing but shadow boxing. Every single action that we have undertaken against groups or individuals can trace their existence to an adoring dim media that creates them, props them up and then protects them from damage through propaganda, misdirection and lies.

I think it's time we redirect our efforts to the source that creates, sustains and drives liberalism.

Comments and suggestions?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: enemy; enemywithin; kerry; media; swiftboat; swiftboatvets
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To: Bob J

Bob J, Scarborough, Hannity and O'reilly are not liberals.


141 posted on 08/12/2004 10:42:44 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: Bob J
I posted something the other night your post reminds me of again:

Truth & communications win over socialism. The advent of the fax machine helped lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

They can't compete with the efforts of diligent patriots & modern day internet + talk radio + FNC.

The best thing to do is to help efforts now underway, it appears, to construct a timeline of January & February 1989 for John Kerry calendar & see if it precludes the box they've just placed themselves into.

They've already had to admit the key event in John Kerry's life was a fraudulent, phony story. The way this story broke this week, with the hat story out on Laura Ingraham as quickly as possible, caught them offguard and they were left periless to the Swiftie charges (courteousy of crushKerry website).

There are a reasonable number of days left to compete against this menace (liberalism combined with propaganda media). Already people everywhere outright laugh at the idea of Hanoi John French Kerry tromping around the jungle at night he can't see with a compass he can't read, a boat he can't navigate and an imaginary CIA guy with his same hat size.

The veil has been pierced. The truth drew blood.

Now let the real games begin!

142 posted on 08/12/2004 10:43:40 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: staytrue

Now there is a suggestion that has merit.


143 posted on 08/12/2004 10:45:06 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J

>>while our attention is diverted the real enemy steals the store.<<

You just hit the ball out of the park, Bob. Bingo!

IMHO, it's because we usually let the libs set the agenda. They're always one step ahead of us because they 1) Make up the rules and 2) They play dirty.

The Swift Boat heroes are turning the tables on them this time and they're beside themselves with angst. I say we continue to support those brave men 200%! Then we line up REPUBLICAN LAWYERS to monitor the elections because it's going to be a bloodbath if we don't.

And btw, this also drives me absolutely crazy sometimes.


144 posted on 08/12/2004 10:45:48 PM PDT by Humidston (Al Qa'eda are girlie boys.... They hide behind women and children and wear masks!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Making our voices heard to the media and it's supporters is an important part of what we must do.
145 posted on 08/12/2004 10:47:58 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J
Bob I am not sure what you have in mind but I think you would agree that there are many of us that feel the same as you. I have used FR for many years as a fun way to debate the issues but now it is time to decide how we can use this fabulous group of people to really make a difference. If you have a specific strategy in mind then put it together and I for one will spend the 6 or 7 hours a day I spend here actually helping. Here is what I would suggest. Take a day and outline your thinking. Consult with some of the other heavy hitters like Tonk and Kristin and come back with a new thread asking for comment and then we have a roadmap to follow. Create the plan and the work the plan.
146 posted on 08/12/2004 10:48:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: tpaine
"Yes Bob, - how can we rid ourselves of the 'two party' system, if we unconditionally support one half of it?"

A two party system works in our favor. Each peddles to the middle to win so all one has to do is move the middle in their direction to change the culture.

147 posted on 08/12/2004 10:50:19 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Lori675
"Bob J, Scarborough, Hannity and O'reilly are not liberals."

I'm not sure I understand the point.

148 posted on 08/12/2004 10:51:27 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Torie

how do lies and bias matter?


149 posted on 08/12/2004 10:51:40 PM PDT by phxaz (7 minutes of composure. 37 minutes of paralysis.)
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To: okie01
okie01 wrote:

Tell me, how do 3rd partiers plan to influence the outcome of the game when they are always on the sidelines? Or in the stands?

I have no 'plans', okie, just as I have no party. I'd support the GOP, if they could support even `some~ of the principles of the RLC. -- Fat chance.

150 posted on 08/12/2004 10:51:48 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Texasforever
I have sent them money and I also asked them for a one page fact sheet that I intend to reproduce and pass out, door to door, with a group of like-minded individuals I've recruited. (I haven't yet heard back from them.) I'm also a Bush volunteer.

Believe me, I don't plan to sit back and complain, I plan to act. And I agree with you, thousands of us getting the truth out, on a face to face, non-confrontational basis, will be far more effective.
151 posted on 08/12/2004 10:52:20 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: Steven W.

Why should we have to work that hard to get the truth out?


152 posted on 08/12/2004 10:52:30 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Texasforever

Yep, you don't know, tex. -- Dream on.


153 posted on 08/12/2004 10:53:53 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: texasbluebell
Ha! Must have been subliminal. Didn't even notice it.

?? what?? I didn't do it, that Freeper did it.

154 posted on 08/12/2004 10:54:47 PM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: Texasforever
I'm talking about focusing and redirecting our efforts to achieve a measurable an sustaining success. IMHO, the target should be the media.
155 posted on 08/12/2004 10:56:27 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Williams
Way to Go! (post 105)but the whole republican party is allowing this country to go down the tubes to unchallenged radical leftism.

Saw two bulls squaring off today in a field in Sonoma county. To the winner goes making all the new baby cows. As the younger bull, conservatives must take this fight seriously and defeat the 'older bull', as his time is fleeting. Then and only then, will 'new' stock begin to appear.

The media will fall in line (to save their butts) with new praise for conservative ideals. "Check out this emporer's clothes!" Media whores dress the part, a Bush win in November may be the tetonic event needed to bring about a change in fashion (ideology) not seen in a long, long time.

156 posted on 08/12/2004 10:57:16 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: Bob J

Your saying the media is liberal. I'm saying there are plenty of conservative shows John O'neil can go on.
I saw him on Scarborough, Hannity interviewed him.


157 posted on 08/12/2004 10:57:55 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: Dolphy

Would it be easier if we balanced the media so our position got out to the masses on a daily basis via TV, radio and print?


158 posted on 08/12/2004 10:58:46 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Torie
Actually it was good. Matthews degraded his own credibility

Whoa! Mathews had credibility?

That's a stretch.

159 posted on 08/12/2004 10:59:40 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: budwiesest
I'm afraid you underestimate the fanaticism of the left.
160 posted on 08/12/2004 10:59:55 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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