Posted on 08/13/2004 10:41:24 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
COULD THIS HAVE BEEN A SET UP FROM THE VERY BEGINNING?
I did not expect Matthews to agree with O'Neill, not by any stretch of the imagination. But I always thought Chris could rise above partisanship when truth was at stake.
I've been thinking since the broadcast.
Facts:
Chris Matthews was unlike anything I have ever seen, even for him. I am making no accusations..... To answer that question, more info is needed. Can anyone contribute?
Anyone?
Was there ever any doubt that Matthews has a dog in his race?
Matthews son campaigned for Howard Dean -- it made Chris proud.
I believe Matthews is from Philadelphia.
Went into Peace Corps to avoid draft.
You're too generous.
Chris' flying spittle during the John O'Neill segment is an indication of just how explosive and effective the swiftees story is, and of just how warped and partisan much of the media is. This is a case study in news media bias.
Chris Matthews is originally from Philadelphia. He went to Holy Cross, joined the Peace Corps, then worked a while as a policemen at the Capitol in DC.
I think you're on to something with the Tip O'Neil link.
I am wondering if Hurley may know Matthews.
C'mon, Matthews is a liberal and "Hardball" only applies to conservatives. "Softball" should be the name of his show when liberals are interviewed.
Enough of the Catholic bashing. I am a Catholic Republican and I get tired of the "He went to Holy Cross" which implies that all Catholics are liberals.
Not only that, Matthews constantly talked over O'neill every time O'Neill tried to answer an accusation.
But, as far as your comment that you've never seen matthews like that -- he is like that all the time. I caught a portion of his discussion the previous night with two pundits about the various merits of Laura Bush vs. Teresa Heinz and whether they were assets to their husbands -- it was just disgusting. Matthews did not have one nice thing to say about Laura Bush. He discussed that lovely lady as if she were a nothing and described Teresa's antics as lively, interesting, etc.
I just won't watch him any more. He makes me sick.
Chris Matthews is a little pimp.
Scare him a bit and he'll run to
daddy.
Look, they brought out both Carville and Lanny Davis in a tag team shoutdown against O'Neill on another show. These are the top-shelf Dem goons working on this one. They realize the SS Kerry is taking on water, and it's all hands on deck for the libs right now. No time for integrity, there's an election to win.
I think so.
Lookie here - from John Fund on March 29th:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110004881
Not so fast. Mr. Kerry's campaign has done more than contradict itself. It has been in full coverup mode. John Musgrave, one of the six witnesses who placed Mr. Kerry at the Kansas City meeting, says the head of Veterans for Kerry, John Hurley, called him twice and pressured him to change the story he had already told a Kansas City Star reporter about the 1971 meeting.
According to Mr. Musgrave, Mr. Hurley told him that the senator "was definitely not in Kansas City." The New York Sun reports that Mr. Musgrave, who received three Purple Hearts in Vietnam, told Mr. Hurley that "I remember what I remember." Mr. Hurley then said, "Why don't you refresh your memory and call that reporter back?" Mr. Hurley says he thinks Mr. Musgrave is mistaken and was simply insisting Mr. Musgrave be very sure of his recollection. "I would apologize to John Musgrave if he thought in any way I was pressuring him," he told the Kansas City Star.
It's always a setup when a Democrat opponent is a guest on one of these shows.
Just imagine a show with a Republican host treating Hillary Clinton like O'Neill was treated. I know, there are no Republican hosts, and HRC never appears anywhere that isn't totally scripted, but just pretend.
The outrage from the media over the rude, disrepectful treatment would be deafening. But it's just normal behavior when a non-Democrat is the guest.
Not Catholic Bashing.....my point was could Matthews have met Hurley while he was at Holy Cross. That is why I asked if anyone knew where Hurley went to school
I would never engage in Catholic bashing.
Please e-mail Chris Matthews at Hardball and let him know of your disgust.
That was your first mistake.
Well, do you still think that?
Rush just played Carvile segment from yesterday.
"Cannonball" to Conservatives
Monkeys will be flying out of my butt first.
I totally agree with you. I watched as much of it as I could handle. Matthews was a disgrace and his partisanship was so obvious it was disgusting. In my eyes, he has lost all credibility. I can never again watch him without knowing he's a DNC shill.
John Hurley is the National Director of Veterans for Kerry and has been working full time as a volunteer in John Kerry's presidential campaign for over a year. An attorney, Hurley is a Vietnam veteran who served with the U.S. Army in the Mekong Delta in 1967-1968. He was a Platoon Leader in Company B, 69th Engineer Battalion. He is 61 and lives in Wellesley, Massachusetts with his wife, Anne Goggin, and their three children, Caitlin, Conor, and Julia. His passions are family, Cape Cod, and the Boston Red Sox.
The best thing you can do is to never watch CNN or MSNBC again (only makes your blood pressure go up!)
This has become the MO of virtually every talking-head show on cable. It's why I've stopped watching most of them. Carville did the same thing to O'Neill on CNN last night. O'Reilly does the same thing to everyone on his show. Everyone does it to everyone on Hannity and Colmes.
This should be the height of viewership for shows like "Spitball." I wonder how Hissy-fit Matthews' rating are doing. I'd love to see about two-thirds of the cable talking-head shows bite the dust after the election.
I agree with everything you have said. Matthews was disgustingly biased.
Darn. I missed it. My wife is exercising now, and the exercise machine generates powerful interference with the radio, so we turn it off for "the duration." I hope to see it (Carville again making an a$$ of himself) sometime soon.
I know he is a dem. I know he is biased. I know he is partisan.
But this time he was over the top--even for him. It went beyond the pale. I have watched many of his rants, this was full of the anger and venom we have seen from the left towards President Bush.
Either he & Hurley (or someone else from the Kerry Camp) planned this full frontal assault on O'Neill or Chris has a serious anger management problem.
Forget the bias angle, we all know that is there.
I suspect collusion.
How do you know something you saw on TV was setup?
You saw it on TV.
Also Matthews claimed it was an old trick conservatives use to say that they didn't have a chance to speak.
Matthews is a moron. He has tailored his show to liberals in the last couple of years.
I read the transcript, but I'll never watch again.
Both Matthews and Carville have been over the top on this issue. I'm not surprised, they're scared.
You are right...I expected Chris to be more fair..why
did he bring up Bush? He was bashing Bush instead of
allowing O'Neil to get his points out..then Chris used the Navy way of doing things..to justify any point that was
made by O'Neil relating to the P-Hearts and the fact
that he put three together real fast to get his a$$ out of Vietnam..and then the real damage he did to the fighting
men- still there when he was trashing the war...Matthews
stayed clear of that..hell- when you compare the 50,000
names on the wall..how many were killed after Kerry was on his self serving crusade against the war...and Bush is
fighting for our freedom from terrorists...with thousands less in casualties....Chris is going down the tubes.. Jake
Went into Peace Corps to avoid draft.
Chris Matthews has a large presence on the TV stage. His character and his judgement of other Demorat characters is in serious question, IMO.
Doesn't his draft evasion veering into the Peace Corps need to be brought to the top of the heap to show the fence-sitters just who is hammering the Swift Boat Vets?
Everyone is a liar who ever supported or served in the Military? I am sick of this perversion which seems to continue unchallenged by any Republican.
Partisan is one thing. Did ONLY Republicans serve in the military in the last 60 years in the USA??? I seriously doubt it. Shouldn't Democrats who loyally served iun the many branches of the Military be offended by the nastiness of Matthews and his ilk? I expect such foaming at the mouth from James Carville. He has shown his serpent colors for years.
Chris POSES as a human...he's a spitting Democrat.
I never, ever, under any circumstances, watch any program. in any venue, that includes little Chrissy Matthews. He is a waste of air.
Yes, the hardball show was a setup. But the Dem goons can't stop people from buying and reading the book "Unfit for Command." As people read the book and discuss it, there will be a slow but steady erosion of support for Kerry and a large number of swing voters will decide to vote for Bush because Kerry is thoroughly dishonest. O'Neill does a great job of being honest, factually correct, and relatively non-partisan. Kerry is toast.
I agree--Its almost as if anyone who knew Nixon is somehow tainted. Matthues was set to sink this boat to save his pal John Kerry. But, the truth still burns bright. As the great Texan Sam Huston once said: " The Truth burns, but it burns clean."
I noticed what Chris was doing toward the end of the show too. It made me so mad, I had to e-mail Chris to point this out.
Here is what I sent:
"Chris, I was appalled at your hypocritical treatment of John ONeill during your interview. When it appeared Mr. ONeill was making great points in the debate about the way John Kerry received his medals, I noticed you launched into your rude interrupting, ask many questions in a row, and then answer them yourself mode. Then when Mr. ONeill began to protest this tactic, you contemptuously accused him of using a conservative tactic. The way I saw it, you were using the tactics. Your liberal tactic of suppressing the truth reminds me of a little kid putting their fingers in the ears and saying blah, blah, blah I cant hear you."
James Carville was a Marine!
Matthews was painting O'Neill as some guy who has been "after Kerry" for 30 something years. A total lie. O'Neill has kept away from Kerry. He's been asekd many times over the years to come out against Kerry but has not until "now". And he would have come out earlier if not for his wife's illness.
Chris Matthews is no more a journalist that George Stephanopoulos is. Matthews is a punk. I'll never ever ever watch him again. Or Bill O'Reilly. Another punk!
The media tit that Matthews, Stephanopoulos, O'Reilly and Carville suck on is drying up. FreeRepublic is the new media.
If you invite someone onto TV just to abuse them, how is that so different from the Two Minutes Hate?
Matthews is responsible for the accelerated dumbing down of politics and talk shows. If it weren't for this vicious hack the Carvilles in the world couldn't have emerged.
Matthews was also actively in support of communism throughout the cold war. Now, he loves to talk about how "we" won.
He's stupid, unstable, and has a problem with alcohol. Dumb conservatives like him because he hated Clinton. That was all personal. To the extent that he has an ideology, he's still hard left.
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