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Should singers strike a political note?
The Tennessean ^ | August 14th, 2004 | Cooper

Posted on 08/15/2004 8:12:55 AM PDT by wardaddy

By PETER COOPER

Staff Writer A vote is a voice, and celebrity provides a microphone.

Thus — especially in an election year — it's common for politically minded artists and musicians to use their fame as a platform to push agendas and candidates. That's been the case for hundreds of years in hundreds of countries, and the American tradition includes plenty of singing and stumping.

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I found this interesting and almost reasonable for a Gannett paper. Cooper is a fool if he thinks Rock The Vote is impartial.

Much like an AME church it is simply a DNC org dishonestly implying otherwise.

I had the pleasure last nite of helping my pal here in Nashville who is a booking agent with his Lynyrd Skynyrd show at an outdoor venue in Rome Georgia. Let me tell ya'll, there is no doubt where that band and the crowd stands. Unabashedly pro-America and pro-troops and pro-WOT and pro-Stopping Illegal Immigration.

The song Red White and Blue was spot on and most refreshing was the crowd. It was not what folks like to stereotype as some kind of drunk David Allen Coe bacchanalia....it was a broad crowd of very decent patriotic Southern folks from teens to 60 and included a bevy of the very best in gorgeous Southern womanhood there is to offer.

I salute Georgia and their ladies!!! It was so refreshing to see such a huge like minded crowd of younger folks. Gives me hope and does me proud.

And I hope the Sara Evans and Darryl Whorley's of the world keep on doing their part. To hell with the America haters. I'll buy Patti Griffith's damned ticket.

1 posted on 08/15/2004 8:12:56 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: WKB; dixiechick2000; Blood of Tyrants; NewRomeTacitus; onyx; bourbon; Yudan; stainlessbanner

FYI


2 posted on 08/15/2004 8:17:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy

I don't care if they do it on their own time. If I'm buying their time (at a concert) to hear their music, then it's not OK.


3 posted on 08/15/2004 8:19:16 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: wardaddy
...a bevy of the very best in gorgeous Southern womanhood there is to offer.

 

Just a gentle reminder that pictures are generally required when making comments such as this.


4 posted on 08/15/2004 8:19:37 AM PDT by Fintan ("If you say 'three' mister, you'll never hear the man count ten.")
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To: Fintan

Man....I wish I had had one....I bet I tore tickets from 2000 cars.

Like my buddy said..."People would pay to do what we're doing"...lol


5 posted on 08/15/2004 8:21:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy

They can say anything they want. But they are ENTERTAINERS and risk loosing money when they begin to "sing" about what goes on in politics. Just because nobody wants to listen to them when they state thier political views or BUY thier records because of thier religious, political beliefs is not a violation of thier free speech what so ever.


6 posted on 08/15/2004 8:22:28 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: aimhigh

In their songs, you are buying into it. But it does strike me that the groups that seem pro-America and pro-troops and pro-WOT and pro-Stopping Illegal Immigration are written with talent and dignity rather than hate and obscentities.


7 posted on 08/15/2004 8:24:01 AM PDT by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: Fintan

You tell "em Fin! Let's see some pictures of those Georgia peaches.


8 posted on 08/15/2004 8:24:30 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (You're extremely slow if you're not swift enough to see that the Swiftvets are telling it like it is)
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To: Dallas59
Remember last year when it was the Dixie Chicks? Crazy Al Gore tried to claim that refusing to listen to or buy their albums was a violation of their 1st Amendment rights, as if the Constitution guarantees that unpopular artists have access to other people's entertainment budgets.
9 posted on 08/15/2004 8:27:22 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: wardaddy
It was so refreshing to see such a huge like minded crowd of younger folks. Gives me hope and does me proud.

Yeah, an encouraging sign. The attempt by academia to mould our youth into socialist one-world automotons is failing.

10 posted on 08/15/2004 8:27:57 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Cultural Jihad

Gore's understanding of the 1st Amendment appears to rival his understanding of the electoral college.


11 posted on 08/15/2004 8:30:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: wardaddy
"it's common for politically minded artists and musicians to use their fame as a platform to push agendas and candidates"

And in so doing, they voluntarily place their fame in the line of fire of potential public backlash.

12 posted on 08/15/2004 8:31:31 AM PDT by DKM
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To: F.J. Mitchell; wardaddy
Well them Georgia Peaches
Sure do got the style
They'll steal your heart with a Southern smile
Well they talk a little funny, but they look so fine
The older they get, I swear its like good wine
I think they're cute, think they're cute as they can be
Talkin' about a funny talkin', honk-tonking Georgia Peach
13 posted on 08/15/2004 8:33:05 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: F.J. Mitchell; wardaddy

Sure...leave it to me to do all the grunt work around here...


14 posted on 08/15/2004 8:33:41 AM PDT by Fintan ("If you say 'three' mister, you'll never hear the man count ten.")
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To: wardaddy

Toby Keith wrote that song with the line 'it ain't no rag, it's a flag..' and I believe he deleted it when singing in Dearborn,Michigan. They played that Lynard Skynard song a lot here for a while.


15 posted on 08/15/2004 8:34:22 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: wardaddy

A minimum requirement for the publication or broadcast of an opinion should be the suspicion or existence of knowledge of the matter at hand. To have an opinion is everyone's right. To speak it in some public forum should demand that you demonstrate, at the very least, a grasp of the most rudimentary facts surrounding a topic or incident. The pride of ignorance should not be your claim to fame.


16 posted on 08/15/2004 8:35:59 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: wardaddy
I have no problem with this as long as it is known that it a political rally, mascaraing as a concert!
17 posted on 08/15/2004 8:36:51 AM PDT by TMSuchman (If we don't get out to vote, the anti-Americans will win, and we will loose everything!)
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To: Cultural Jihad

I would fight for thier right to say or sing anything they want...Al Gore is passé to say the least. He's great to make fun of...but irrelevant as far as current politics are concerned. He became irrelevant November 6th, 2000.


18 posted on 08/15/2004 8:37:33 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: cyborg

I was just coming back to ping you.

Last nite was so fun and refreshing...nothing like the stereotype folks joke about.

Lots of decent looking folks that looked happy to be there....and the kids knew the words like I do.

Hell, I felt 17 again at the last show I saw them at in Mobile in 74. Almost got misty eyed....yep I know it's only 3 or 4 original members.

And it was a sweet financial success for the promoter and the band.


19 posted on 08/15/2004 8:38:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy
It was so refreshing to see such a huge like minded crowd of younger folks

Lynyrd Skynard's fan base is Baby-Boomer heavy. I know they have some young fans, but most of their fans are the same age as the band members.

There are some gains being made by the youth vote in the conservative movement, but the MTV generation is solidly in the Commie Camp.

20 posted on 08/15/2004 8:39:48 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: wardaddy

It's one of my favorites. You just don't hear songs like that up here anymore. Didn't one of the band members die in a plane crash? Anyway, freebird is my most favorite and thank god there's one rock music station left in new york otherwise I'd not hear it *LOL*

http://www.skynyrd.com/


21 posted on 08/15/2004 8:42:40 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Fintan

LOL


22 posted on 08/15/2004 8:43:24 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Zevonismymuse

Average age last nite was about 25 I'd guess. It's music they grew up with their folks I'd imagine.

I'm sure the kids prefer edgier newer stuff as their own but they knew this stuff and they obviously liked it.

And this was the semi-rural South...I actually know kids who buy Kenny Chesney and Montgomery Gentry records believe or not.

Also....there were no white boy thugs who think they are in reality black gangstas....none. That demographic is a scourge in working class Nashville.


23 posted on 08/15/2004 8:44:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: Fintan
Well, the MILFs (respectfully)looked sort of like this:

Fair haired peachy and the young girls looked like KDs or Tri-Delts at Ole Miss (in fact there was a car load of them)

Lots of the gals looked like a CMT video or Sara Evans....soft featured....a distinctness of Deep South gals...I'm a Mississippi native...an expert..lol

24 posted on 08/15/2004 8:47:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy
Related note on football.

We watched the Redskins play the Cardinals last night. What a relief to have football season start! Anyway, Tom Bostick was announcing and I counted 3 times in the first half that he tried to inject politics into the commentary. No kidding! Once was about the player "Clinton". Once was about how the game was being played in Washington, a lobbying town. And, hmmm, I forgot what the third was.

I don't know what angle he was pushing, but that's not the point. I hope they continue to keep football play-by-play focused on the game. Like music and movies, an entertainer's audience is politically diverse.

Why would an entertainer risk of offending a portion of their audience on a subject that is outside their patronage?

It doesn't make business sense. I would really hate to put football announcers on my boycott list.

25 posted on 08/15/2004 9:02:57 AM PDT by kdot
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To: wardaddy

If it's a liberal ... you take your chances on losing fans. If you are a conservative the same applies as well.


26 posted on 08/15/2004 9:04:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

sure...think Moby fans..lol


27 posted on 08/15/2004 9:09:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy
I've got no problem with entertainers having a voice and airing their opinions, however ill-informed they happen to be. I have only two problems:

Don't take time out of a concert or show that I paid money to see and waste it spouting your drivel (whether I agree with it or not) unless I knew, up front, that it's part of what I was paying for.

Don't air our dirty laundry to a foreign audience. This is akin to going to school and telling an auditorium full of kids about your brother's inability to keep from wetting the bed. It's just not done.

If you, as an entertainer, can't understand the above concepts, then you won't be receiving my money. That's not a violation of your free speech, moron, it's accepting the consequences for your freely-exercised option to be as stupid as you want to be.

28 posted on 08/15/2004 10:01:14 AM PDT by Egon (Kerry in 1970: Don't suppose he voted FOR assasinating our leaders, before voting against it...)
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To: wardaddy
Political singers should take the example of Holly Near to heart.

29 posted on 08/15/2004 10:04:22 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Fintan

"Sure...leave it to me to do all the grunt work around here...."

Oh...Oh...Oh my heart...can't catch my breath...such beauty...too much for an old man's ticker....but it's worth i-i-i-i-i-i-i-t......good bye cruel world.

It's just that you do the grunt work so well, Fin. Thanks we needed that, I know I did.

Thanks for posting that.


30 posted on 08/15/2004 10:09:05 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (You're extremely slow if you're not swift enough to see that the Swiftvets are telling it like it is)
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To: wardaddy

The link doesn't work for me but that's
not unusual either.
I would make a good Demcorat,
I believe those artist who agree with me should
have a voice and those who don't should be jailed.


31 posted on 08/15/2004 10:41:52 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: Fintan
I've seen better heads in a cabbage patch.
32 posted on 08/15/2004 10:43:58 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: wardaddy

Freerepublic is mentioned, isn't it?


33 posted on 08/15/2004 10:53:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The harbor master is largely unconcerned with the direction of the tide - only its amplitude.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Their talk doesn't sound funny to me
but then I'm from dixie too you see
proud to know that upon their beautee
You and me agree.


34 posted on 08/15/2004 11:02:22 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (You're extremely slow if you're not swift enough to see that the Swiftvets are telling it like it is)
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To: wardaddy

This looks like a case of the First Amendment being opposed by popular sentiment on the face of it, but I believe it's truly a matter of artists lacking respect for the sensibilities of half the people who helped them become successful. Music artists, much like those who work in film and television, depend on creativity for continued inspiration and hidebound closed-mindedness would chisel the epitaph on their careers. They're also surrounded by bohemian coworkers and management that invariably arrived from a liberal arts background. It's a wonder that there's any conservative Republicans among the ranks of artists at all.

On the other hand these people have a responsibility toward their fanbase. To best do that they need to read at least a portion of their fan mail and keep up with the current of public opinions. Depending on hired help to do those things skews that information when conveyed through the filter of the helpers' personalities. I suspect this and virtual insulation from anyone remotely normal contributed to Lina Rondstadt's goof (well, that and a lack of any common sense).

Then there's the minority who seem aware of those things yet remain determined to use their priviledged positions to push their agendas on people. Their lack of respect for fans combined with their ego-driven arrogance should be noted and remembered when their products appear on the market. Because, hey, it's a free country.

(Say hi to your family for me.)


35 posted on 08/15/2004 11:23:58 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Music Row is where the vampires walk around in the daylight.)
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To: wardaddy
I'm sure the kids prefer edgier newer stuff as their own but they knew this stuff and they obviously liked it.

Absolutely you are correct. The kids there last night were probably a lot like my 3 young adult children.

I guess my point is that these kids are not going to make a difference in a close race. The Rock the Vote crowd is being organized as a voting block for Democrats. Republicans don't have much organization in this area.

My children vote Republican and help me register their friends but it is far from the well oiled machine of Rolling Stone Magazine and MTV.

36 posted on 08/15/2004 11:43:11 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: wardaddy
Last night i attended a Rod Stewart concert. There was no politics, except for one song. Surprise, Rod did a tribute to our men and women in the armed services. He got an arousing round of applause. The giant screen had military movies both current and old. Of course he was in Idaho, the Republican and conservative Capitol of the world.
37 posted on 08/15/2004 12:47:40 PM PDT by fritzz (If you do not change your direction, you will end up exactly where you are headed)
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To: wardaddy

"Singers" can say whatever they like.

However, if their FANS don't agree .. then the singers have to be willing to take the lumps. If they're not willing to allow other people to have a different point of view .. then they should just "shut up and sing".


38 posted on 08/15/2004 1:41:40 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: The only way to Peace is through Victory!)
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To: WKB
I've seen better heads in a cabbage patch.

 

Don't get me started. I really don't feel like getting banned again


39 posted on 08/15/2004 2:30:33 PM PDT by Fintan (Some...Ovaltine?????)
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To: Fintan

Don't get me started. I really don't feel like getting banned again



OK


40 posted on 08/15/2004 2:39:20 PM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: fritzz

Whatever happened to Rod Stewart's retirement?


41 posted on 08/15/2004 2:43:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: WKB

 

Happy now??? See ya in three days.

 

42 posted on 08/15/2004 2:48:55 PM PDT by Fintan (Some...Ovaltine?????)
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To: Fintan

But you have just proven my point.


43 posted on 08/15/2004 2:51:14 PM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB
But you have just proven my point.

 

I usually do. It's my weakest trait.


44 posted on 08/15/2004 2:59:09 PM PDT by Fintan (Some...Ovaltine?????)
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To: Fintan

BTW your favorite thing #2 is now the dreaded redx


45 posted on 08/15/2004 3:01:05 PM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: WKB; Old_Professor; Admin Moderator

I posted the link bad....we are not supposed to link direct to Tennessean apparently.

However one can Google it. It's on today's frontpage and yes it mentions FR.

AM can you expound?


46 posted on 08/15/2004 5:21:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Hey to you too Bud!


47 posted on 08/15/2004 5:21:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: wardaddy
It sounds like you had a wonderful time last night.
That's a concert I would LOVE to see.
But, it sounds like the concert
wasn't the ONLY thing you enjoyed. ;o)

Since my screen name is what it is, ya' normally
wouldn't find me posting on a thread like this. ;o)

So, I'll make this my statement...


48 posted on 08/15/2004 10:11:27 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: WKB

"I would make a good Demcorat,
I believe those artist who agree with me should
have a voice and those who don't should be jailed."



LOL! Why not shot? ;o)


49 posted on 08/15/2004 10:13:55 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Fintan; WKB

ROTFLOL!

You two are a hoot!


50 posted on 08/15/2004 10:15:28 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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