Posted on 08/15/2004 2:40:41 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16
I just finished watching the debate on cspan - did you catch the part where Kerry said his immediate superior was removed because so many swifties were "mutinying" and refusing to do the "war crimes"..?
Thanks, VBR! I've seen other macro views. Here is a terrific macro I just found. What I want (picky, picky) is a micro that clearly identifies the name of the (left-hand) river in question in the post 20 12-mile scale zoom-in. I want to nail this thing to stay nailed. Can't do that with a macro view.
ON C-SPAN NOW....KERRY-O'NEILL 1971 DEBATE !!!
Saw it a few months ago. For all his ill-fitting attire O'Neill had his factual ducks in a row and was a fine debater. Audience sympathy seemed to be evenly divided. To give him credit, Dick Cavett was clearly on Kerry's side, but he wanted a fair debate (the absolute best part was when he had to break it off to put in a plug for Clairol Hair Care products, hee! hee! the look on his face...). Trivial, I'll admit, but I was struck by the difference in style between the two men. It was O'Neill's crew-cut Johnny Unitas versus Kerry's blow-dried Joe Namath. I found myself wishing it had been O'Neill who had gone into politics.
That should be easy to verify or debunk. Put Hugh Hewitt on it!
just watched it again.
O'Neill then and now is the better man.
Kerry was then and remains to be a slimey, wicked weird looking, pompous, self-serving doofus. He still employs the same "oratory" tricks ("let me also say...") to try and gains time to think...when the audience laughed at something stinging O'Neill said, he flushed and stuttered...let's see more of that in the debates.
He is nasty.
Question, gentlemen: The river on the right is labeled "Mekong." What is the name of the river to its left? These two both branch off at the same point north of the border.
Requesting your assistance in post 29. Any idea what the river on left is called?
Try this:
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2003239-0827/Mekong.A2003239.0330.250m.jpg
http://academic.uofs.edu/faculty/gramborw/atav/maps.htm
It was clear even back then that Gigilo John shouldn't be trusted. Would the CIA really have used him for anything unless there was no one else available?
"Sa Dec and then headed north to the Cambodian border"
Sa Dec is on the Mekong river just South and West of Saigon and the river does run North from Sa Dec to the border. There is a small run of the river that seems to run with the VN / Cambodia border. See this map: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/vietnam_pol92.jpg
I studied this for a time and have come to the conclusion that there is a VN / Cambodia border with a Mekong river between them North of Sa Dec.
Well, this should be a piece of cake to clear up. Just identify the other two boats and get their crews to support or refute the statement.
this is an excellent catch by Hugh regarding his use of the word "inadvertent" since his missions were supposedly secret and ordered. Brinkley should just step away and quietly, behind the scenes, acknowledge to friends and comrades that Kerry is a liar so as to save what little is left of his own credibility. It's not worth trying to help Kerry perpetuate these lies because they're already admitted the key recantation of Kerry's 30 years and the remainder seem absurd on the face.
Reportedly, three have already been asked and their response was something like, "Cambodia? Us?"
The other two have refused to be interviewed on the subject.
This seems like a good subject for one of your cartoons - don't you think, Linda?He's always been on secret though illegal missions, including one that he spoke of in June 2003 to Washington Post reporter Laura Blumenfeld in which he produced his magic hat:
"A close associate hints: There's a secret compartment in Kerry's briefcase. He carries the black attaché everywhere. Asked about it on several occasions, Kerry brushed it aside. Finally, trapped in an interview, he exhaled and clicked open his case.'Who told you?' he demanded as he reached inside. "My friends don't know about this."
The hat was a little mildewy. The green camouflage was fading, the seams fraying.
'My good luck hat,' Kerry said, happy to see it. 'Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia.'
Kerry put on the hat, pulling the brim over his forehead. His blue button-down shirt and tie clashed with the camouflage. He pointed his finger and raised his thumb, creating an imaginary gun. He looked silly...
Right. There is info to that effect in Unfit for Command. However, it is in context related to Kerry's Xmas Eve story. All of Kerry's superiors have stated uncategorically that they nnever heard of or authorized any missions to Cambodia.
I can see the movie poster: "A Conspiracy So Vast! A Rightwing So Powerful!" "We were playing cards - suddenly a guy thrust a card at me - it was the Queen of Diamonds, only it had this ugly woman's photo on it - and the next thing I knew, I was in Cambodia, shooting and pillaging!"
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