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Chavez Wins Venezuela Referendum-Preliminary Result
Reuters ^ | 16AUG04 | Reuters

Posted on 08/16/2004 1:56:21 AM PDT by familyop

CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has survived a referendum to recall him, according to preliminary results released by the country's top electoral officer on Monday.

National Electoral Council President Francisco Carrasquero said in a national broadcast the "No" option opposing Chavez's recall had obtained just over 58 percent of the vote, while the "Yes" vote obtained nearly 42 percent.

But two pro-opposition electoral officials questioned the result.

Shortly before Carrasquero made the announcement, two members of the five-member National Electoral Council leadership said they could not back the result.

Ezequiel Zamora and Solbella Mejias, both known opposition sympathizers, said procedural checks had not been carried out on the results as required. "These partial results that part of the National Electoral Council wants to present to the public cannot be considered official," Mejias said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chavez; poll; preliminary; recall; results; venezuela

1 posted on 08/16/2004 1:56:21 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

We've been discussing it over here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192332/posts

Chavez stole this one. The 2 non-Chavistas on the NEC did support this result.


2 posted on 08/16/2004 1:58:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Southack

It doesn't look good for now, but I suspect that more important information will come out during the next few days. ...or longer.


3 posted on 08/16/2004 1:59:06 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: GeronL

You mean the two non-Chavistas did NOT support this result.


4 posted on 08/16/2004 2:01:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: GeronL
The 2 non-Chavistas on the NEC did not support this result.

;-)

5 posted on 08/16/2004 2:02:04 AM PDT by Simmy2.5 (The California Democrats are all Girlie Men. Wait, make that ALL Democrats!)
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To: dfwgator; Simmy2.5
OK OK. I'm half blind and I don't proof-read..

DARN

Text Size = Larger

That oughtta help

6 posted on 08/16/2004 2:03:15 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL
"Text Size = Larger"

I sympathize with you on that, for sure.
7 posted on 08/16/2004 2:05:39 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

but but but... I'm only 32


8 posted on 08/16/2004 2:08:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: All

Here's another one. It appears that the lefty publications are all over it.

Venezuela's Chavez Survives Recall Referendum (Update1)
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aPSSZQuJbq40&refer=news_index


9 posted on 08/16/2004 2:13:30 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

a "what did we expect" ping


10 posted on 08/16/2004 2:17:17 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk

I bet Jimmy was conducting a trial run for the Kerry win.


11 posted on 08/16/2004 2:24:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The next Zimbabwe


12 posted on 08/16/2004 2:27:49 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Next stop for Jimmuh...Florida!


13 posted on 08/16/2004 2:32:29 AM PDT by Simmy2.5 (The California Democrats are all Girlie Men. Wait, make that ALL Democrats!)
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To: Simmy2.5

ABC RADIO said Chaves supporters were dancing in the streets


14 posted on 08/16/2004 2:34:31 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: All

...more stuff.

Delays in voting spur fraud concerns
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/ny-nssequencer3931664aug16,0,3242479.story?coll=ny-lipolitics-print


15 posted on 08/16/2004 2:38:44 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

http://caracaschronicles.blogspot.com/

anti-chavez website. They think they won, last post was before the election was stolen.


16 posted on 08/16/2004 2:46:24 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: risk

vcrisis.com

another anti-chavez website


17 posted on 08/16/2004 2:49:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: GeronL

Thanks!


18 posted on 08/16/2004 2:50:16 AM PDT by risk
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To: All

Someone earlier asked about oil prices regarding the Venezuelan Referendum.

Oil Falls from Record as Chavez Survives
http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=5983252


19 posted on 08/16/2004 2:51:36 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

I am going to check those two anti-chavez websites tomorrow to see if the purges have started yet.


20 posted on 08/16/2004 2:54:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: familyop; risk; The Scourge of Yazid

CD Claims Vote Fraud

The CD says the results are exactly the opposite based on : Exit polls and the addition of all of the final results of all of the polling stations in the country added by Sumate. They said that the two CNE Directors that are not pro-Chavez were not allowed in the totalling of the data of the CNE. There was no audit of the paper ballots and this was a gigantic fraud. Nothing yet from OAS and the Carter Center. I hear two different rumors, one that at ten AM ther willbe a press conference, two, that OAS may leave the country without saying anything a la Peru. Very sad and confusing outcome. This is the worst possible. The Cd also said they will ask for the addition of all paper ballots printed by the voting machines.

http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/


21 posted on 08/16/2004 3:03:12 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Watery Tart

http://caracaschronicles.blogspot.com/

Worst Case Scenario
It's the very worst thing that could've happened. CNE head Francisco Carrasquero, by himself, announces a set of partial results that give the government a huge advantage. The opposition CNE members immediately say the announcement was made without following proper procedures. The opposition cries foul, and announces mirror-image results. The Carter Center/OAS mission is missing in action, at least at first.

This is the single worst thing that could've happened. The referendum was meant to bring closure to the governance crisis in Venezuela. With contested results made on the basis of a fishy procedure, the referendum has taken Venezuela further away from closure, not closer.

These are dangerous days for Venezuela, dangerous hours. The potential for violence is high. The opposition cannot, will not accept these results. And chavismo, surely enough, will not accept their reversal. In other words, God only knows how the referendum will go down in history, but it will not go down as the peaceful, constitutional, electoral and democratic solution to the crisis that was the once chance the country had of avoiding both dictatorship and civil war.

There could, I suppose, still be a 13th hour surprise. But Jimmy Carter and Cesar Gaviria are diplomats, not miracle workers.

Pray for Venezuela, folks...it's going to get ugly


22 posted on 08/16/2004 3:06:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: Simmy2.5

http://www.vcrisis.com/

Is Chavez stealing the election? I have received a phone call in the middle of the night (presently as I write it is 4:30AM). Carrasquero, ALONE, has announced 4.8 million for the NO to 3.2 for the SI. Interestingly it is the same result I went to bed with, but in the reverse order


23 posted on 08/16/2004 3:10:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: familyop; risk; Cacique
We're in for a sh**storm folks.

I just want to be ready when this demented midget makes his getaway for the presidential palace.

24 posted on 08/16/2004 3:19:27 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("You either ride wit us or collide wit us.")
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To: GeronL

Chavez stealing the election? How could this be? Jimmy Carter is there!

Seriously, what's going to happen in Venezuela soon will not be good.


25 posted on 08/16/2004 3:23:08 AM PDT by Simmy2.5 (The California Democrats are all Girlie Men. Wait, make that ALL Democrats!)
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To: familyop

Jimmy "THE DAMN IDIOT AND FOOL" to the rescue once again.


26 posted on 08/16/2004 3:28:25 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: familyop
Oil Falls from Record as Chavez Survives

A temporary drop in price.

27 posted on 08/16/2004 3:40:10 AM PDT by steveegg (John F'em Ke(rr)y - I was for the war in Iraq before I was against it before I was for it..)
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To: AmericaUnited; Cincinatus' Wife


James Earl Carter, 39th president.

28 posted on 08/16/2004 3:56:24 AM PDT by risk
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To: GeronL
Jimmy Carter will not be trying to assure a fair and accurate result. He will be working diligently to legitimize Chavez and to state that any "irregularities" did not affect the outcome IMHO.
29 posted on 08/16/2004 3:58:26 AM PDT by Truth29
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