THE DEMS SINK LOW: THE GUV MUST GO (gay guv a master of deceit)

NY POST ^ | 8/17/04 | LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

[Liz]

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Gov. James McGreevey............masterfully used his gay affair to divert attention from the real reason for stepping down, and the people of New Jersey and America are falling for it hook, line and sinker. He diverted attention from the allegations of illegal campaign finance, blackmail of potential witnesses and appointing his lover as the head of New Jersey's homeland security — a position he is as qualified as my 2-year-old to handle. The media and much of the public praised him for admitting he was gay, making that admission the focal point of the spectacle. Don't get suckered into thinking his sexuality is the only thing he's been lying about. Scott Van Teyens Morris Plains, N.J.

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If you listen to gay activists and Democratic politicians, it was the most courageous speech ever given. But the words politician and courageous don't tend to go in the same sentence. McGreevey's decision and speech were not courageous either. McGreevey's only looking out for himself. He has cared little for his wife and family (the real victims of his actions) and for the citizens of New Jersey. His honesty was forced on him. Gerard Wollweber Oceanside

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How deep into the sewer are the Democrats in New Jersey willing to go? First, there was the Torricelli election switcheroo. Now this phony apology. If McGreevey feels he's not fit to continue on as governor, then he must step down now. His hanging on to the office just so the Dems can put their man in place stinks. Rae Mackenzie Hoboken, N.J.

[Liz]

(McG's outing himself).... diverted attention from the allegations of illegal campaign finance, blackmail of potential witnesses and appointing his lover as the head of New Jersey's homeland security — a position he is as qualified as my 2-year-old to handle.

I guess McG told Cipel the Leech that he was bringing him over from Israel for a $110,000 tax-paid job to play "Battleship" on those long, boring days in the Statehouse urinals (snort).

[anniegetyourgun]

Not that NJ will do anything about this.

[gunnygail]

Agreed. That is why I left the Toxic Waste State in 83, never to look back. The place sucks, the people are stupid, and they deserve WHAT THEY GET!

[fly_so_free]

I knew there was more to this story. Are the people of NJ really that dumb? Or is the press there silencing the real story?

[G.Mason]

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Tables

Question NJ1: Now, thinking about New Jersey… In your opinion, do you think things in New Jersey are moving in the right direction or do you think the state has gotten off on the wrong track?
	All	Dem	Ind	Rep	Men	Wom	July ‘04	April ‘04	Jan. ‘04	Sept ‘03	April ‘03
Right Direction	31	44	32	17	29	33	42%	42%	42%	33%	39%
Wrong track	51	37	46	71	55	47	41%	39%	46%	52%	41%
Don’t know	18	20	21	12	16	20	17%	20%	13%	14%	20%

Question NJ2: Have you heard of [rotate list]? If you haven't just tell me. [If yes, ask:] Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of …? Would that be very or somewhat?
August 2004	Haven’t heard of	Heard of	Very Favorable	Somewhat Favorable	Somewhat Unfavorable	Very Unfavorable	Not Sure
Jim McGreevey	0%	100	13	19	17	36	14
Jon Corzine	13%	87	21	27	10	10	31
Frank Lautenberg	9%	91	22	25	12	13	27
July 2004
Jim McGreevey	3%	97	12	29	19	28	11
Jon Corzine	18%	82	18	28	14	11	27
Frank Lautenberg	16%	84	18	32	14	16	19

Question NJ3: On Thursday, Governor McGreevey announced that he is a gay American and that he had an extramarital affair with a man and that he would resign as governor as of November 15th. How much have you heard or read about this issue…?
Nothing at all	2%
Only a little	8%
Some	24%
A great deal	66%

Question NJ4: Do you think that, under the circumstances,… or do you think…?
	All	Party			Age
[ROTATE]		Dem	Ind	Rep	18-34	35-54	55-64	65+
the governor should have resigned	48%	34	45	65	33	46	51	55
it wasn’t necessary to resign	42%	54	40	28	59	43	36	35
DK [DON’T READ]	10%	11	15	7	8	11	12	9

Question NJ5: Regardless of what you may think about his resignation, do you think Governor McGreevey had been doing a good enough job to deserve reelection or would you rather have seen a new person in that job?
	All	Party			July ‘04	April ‘04	Jan ‘04	Sept ‘03	April ‘03
		Dem	Ind	Rep
Re-elect	36%	53	32	16	32%	29%	25%	27%	26%
New person	54%	37	54	76	55%	57%	58%	61%	56%
Don’t know/ref.	10%	10	14	8	13%	14%	16%	11%	17%

Question NJ6: In your opinion, what is the main reason the Governor resigned?
[Open-end, pre-coded]
Because he’s gay	8%
Because of his extramarital affair	11%
corruption/scandal related	46%
other reasons…	25%
DK	10%

Question NJ7: According to the New Jersey state constitution, if the governor resigns he is succeeded by the president of the state Senate who is Richard Cody. Before now, have you heard of Richard Cody? [If yes, ask:] Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of him? Would that be very or somewhat?
	Haven’t heard of	Heard of	Very Favorable	Somewhat Favorable	Somewhat Unfavorable	Very Unfavorable	Not Sure
Richard Cody	68%	32%	11	19	3	6	60
		(N=160)

Question NJ8: Governor McGreevey said his resignation becomes effective about three months from now on November 15 after the Presidential election. Do you think ….resignation or do you think…?
		Party			Age
[ROTATE]		Dem	Ind	Rep	18-34	35-54	55-64	65+
that’s the right date for his resignation	41%	63	31	19	65	36	40	39
that he should have resigned immediately	48%	26	58	74	30	52	51	50
Don’t know	10%	11	12	7	5	11	9	10
Ref.	1%	--	--	1	--	1	--	1

Question NJ9: In your opinion, do think its better to….or…?
	All	Party			Region
[ROTATE]		Dem	Ind	Rep	South	Central	North east	North west	Urban Core
Have a special election for governor this November	46	32	51	62	48	49	48	40	40
allow an acting governor to take office for a year until we can have a regular election a year from now.	44	60	36	29	38	40	42	49	56
DK	10	9	13	9	14	11	10	10	5
Refused	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	1	--

 

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[Liz]

Typical Dumbocrat hyphenate gambit.

In this case McGay fellated Cipel, his Dim voter base, and his donor list, all at the same time.

[Alia]

I don't think that most Americans are falling for the liberal NJ ruse. Most Americans work hard for their money -- ergo, they tend to bottomline matters -- certainly in the privacy of their own minds. While the McGreevey "affair" is juicy; can't we all just go rent a video to watch this? It's stupid and tasteless for the Dems to pull a stunt like this on TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

The ones who love this stuff are those living off of taxpayer dollars, and those who are liberal and wealthy. It's part and parcel of their "social lifestyles" -- these lefty dramas of woe and adultery and gayness. It's the fodder of their lifestyles.

Personally, I think this ploy is being used to (not only keep the Dem sticker until Nov); but to get the female vote. Dems automatically have the gay vote.

[Liz]

Excellent deconstruction.

Certainly there is a wide divide between liberals and conservatives and I do believe it centers on lifestyles and the fact that we take sexuality and its attendant responsibilities--like commitment and pregancy--very seriously.

Liberals consider sex recreation that has nothing to do with love. Unborn children are a nuisance and a byproduct of their sex lives they'd just as soon get rid of.

The recent increase in gay male lifestyles I think are a result of jaded sexual appetites resulting from the fully fornicating society in which we live. Some reports say men ---including many married men---gravitate to male on male sex b/c they get a bigger thrill out of it.

[Alia]

Beautifully, succinctly put, Liz.

Many years ago, I got to witness all this up close. It was ugly; but I wanted to understand it. Liberals get off (literally, sexually, figuratively) on "screwing" taboos. It's not the act itself -- it's the "taboo". It titillates them. Makes them feel au so "baad" and "naughty". What they are doing, in essence, is screwing a "ghost". It's an image, a delusion. In the movie, the "crucible", or even yet in other paranormal flicks and stories, individuals are "doing" ghosts. Very similarly, do liberals do sex -- it's not the act; it's the image they are "doing".

Tabus in a society exist for good reason. Liberals are so screwed up sexually, they get off on screwing "tabu"s. It's not about "sex" with another person -- but using that person as one would use a sex toy.

And yours is so true -- after the libertine 60s, they have to find newer "tabu's" to screw in order to get their new thrills. It's an addiction.

Years ago, quite a number, a book came out and hit the SF Bay Area by storm: "Aztec". In this book, a south American young girl gets off on doing "icon" statues. It's very titillating. She's not able to actually make love or to hold sex in a good way. Why? Everything that gets her off, must be an image.

And this explains also the liberal irrational hatred of Bush -- he's an "image" to them, not a person. This explains their perpetual burning-in-effigies -- Bush, Gingrich, Wilson, Connerly. In another age, they'd be rightly termed the "Wicker People" -- burning alive those who represent an image to them -- in sacrifice.

Liberals like to think they are "progressive" and "enlightened". In fact, a metaphysic lobotomy might just grow them up to the current age of MAN. But they don't know this.

[Liz]

I've continually argued in this forum and elsewhere....liberalism is all about disestablishmentarianism.

Wherever they find the societal norm, satanic liberals obsessively work to destroy it.

They cannot abide faith, morals, goodness.

They are compelled to tear down and destroy established norms that form the basis of Western civilization.

Savage, disturbed, dysfunctional liberals are truly possessed.

[Alia]

Liz, thanks for arguing that which I am in complete concurment with. Thanks for keeping on the good fight to educate and inform! :)