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This is the telling part of the whole article, IMHO:

O'Neill and his chorus of haters are still in their get-Kerry mode. I suspect the decades-long fury is still fueled by Kerry's high-profile anti-war stance when he returned home. That was a position that was taken by hundreds of thousands of other Viet vets, including myself in 1971 - which, according to Joe Califono's recent book, Inside: A Public Life, almost cost me my life.

I guess we now know why Hack lets Kerry slide on his service in VN. I respect hack for his service, but I am coming to respect him as a person less with every article I read.

1 posted on 08/18/2004 12:55:21 PM PDT by Littlejon
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I hadn't noticed that line in Hackworth's article. THAT does explain why Hack is a bigot on this subject, rejecting the facts and the statements of other veterans, without review or thought.

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2 posted on 08/18/2004 12:59:04 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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Sure, Bush dodged the draft....

Well, Col. Hackworth, you can denigrate the service of those who served in the Air National Guard if you want but I choose to honor them for their service.

If there are any Air National Guardsmen in this forum or children of Guardsmen who served during the Vietnam war I would like to say, "Thank you for your service to your country. God bless you."

3 posted on 08/18/2004 12:59:17 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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This article really has me confused. I had heard from O'Neill and perhaps someone else in the anti-Kerry group that two of the guys who were supporting Kerry (The Swift Boat soldiers ON his boat) were with him a week or less. Are these guys against him really liars or is that just this man's opinion. I thought I had the right story but now I am wondering. However, the fact that Kerry waffled on his Christmas in Cambodia story is more than enough info for me to know that he is a liar.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 12:59:56 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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The allegations against Kerry have alot more substance than the rumor campaign the McCain faced. Cleland just got smacked for voting like a liberal Democrat in conservative state. What does getting blown up by your own grenade have to do with that?


6 posted on 08/18/2004 1:02:08 PM PDT by Callahan
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If he's willing to give John Boy a pass on this, it makes you wonder why he was so rabid about Admiral Boorda's medals.


7 posted on 08/18/2004 1:03:07 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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His service to his country shouldn't be diminished by the same despicable, politically motivated tactics visited upon Sens. John McCain in South Carolina and Max Cleland in Georgia, also Viet vets. This kind of gutter-bashing doesn't belong in American politics, and vets shouldn't allow themselves to be used as ammo for cheap shots at one of their own.

McCain was beaten to a pulp in the primary for his stupid attack on Christian Conservatives, not because he was a vet. The Swift-Boar Vets are doing this on their own and are not being used as ammo by anyone. They genuinely hate Kerry for numerous reasons and know he exaggerated his stories to earn medals.

8 posted on 08/18/2004 1:03:25 PM PDT by Always Right
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and his Swiftboat snipers -

Funny term for his fellow Vietnam Warriors or does he accuse these guys of being cowards
9 posted on 08/18/2004 1:03:50 PM PDT by uncbob
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Hackworth sort of ran that line by rather quickly. Tell us more, sir. And how did it almost cost you your life?

This article is so devoid of facts, but amply filled with opinion. Must be his style.


13 posted on 08/18/2004 1:05:44 PM PDT by auboy (MSM's creed: see no truth, hear no truth, speak no truth.)
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Hack the slack. Pi$$ on Hack.


14 posted on 08/18/2004 1:06:01 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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Kerry is exactly the type of perfumed prince that Hack used to rail against all the time. It has been a long time since I have taken Hackworth seriously.


15 posted on 08/18/2004 1:07:18 PM PDT by OK
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Thanks for posting. This was interesting:

This isn't the first time Kerry's been sniped at. Joe Klein wrote in The New Yorker that Nixon aide Charles Colson formed the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace in 1971 solely to attack John Kerry.

Colson told Klein that Kerry "was a thorn in our flesh. He was very articulate, a credible leader of the opposition. He forced us to create a counterfoil. We found a vet named John O'Neill and formed a group called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace. We had O'Neill meet the president, and we did everything we could do to boost his group."


Anyone associated with Chuck Colson from that era (I understand he's turned his life around) shouldn't be trusted at all.
18 posted on 08/18/2004 1:08:07 PM PDT by lelio
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Hackworth ends his statement with: " one thing I know for sure - it won't come from fratricide."

This is pretty pathetic, seeing as Kerry never pursued any kind of fraternity with other soldiers and fellow Vets until he decided to run for President. Whatever damage is inflicted on John Kerry, will be done by his own hand...not by what the Swifties are doing.

20 posted on 08/18/2004 1:08:45 PM PDT by mass55th (We are The Knights Who Say "Ni!" No! Not The Knights Who Say "Ni!" The same!)
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O'Neill and his chorus of haters...




So if you question Kerry you're a hater. Right, Hack. Let me throw it back at you -

Hey, Hack, you're butt-kissing a self confessed war criminal who marched under the communist flag with Hanoi Jane. Explain that.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 1:09:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave (NIMBY)
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And sure, Kerry's campaign push on how he Ramboed his way through the war...

Kerry didn't Rambo his way through the war so much as he Spielberged his way through it.

22 posted on 08/18/2004 1:09:03 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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It would be nice if Halfworth could explain what, exactly, was more horrible, more unwinnable, about Vietnam than any other war. Halfworth seems to be a lib by birth, and military by association-- he waves his military credentials proudly as a way to justify his seemingly contradicting positions.

I would also like to know if he persoanlly committed (or even witnessed) atrocities in Vietnam-- supposedly, they were all the rage over there, right?

23 posted on 08/18/2004 1:09:11 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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I remember when FR had a whole contingent of Hackworth groupies and if you spoke out against him you were thoroughly attacked. I would post on every Hackworth thread that the guy was a phoney. In the last year they have disappeared and I certainly feel vindicated.


25 posted on 08/18/2004 1:10:01 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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Funny how Kerry is wonderful for his service and HE DIDN"T VOLUNTEER. he was about to be drafted in the army and wanted to stay in France and study, but was going to be drafted and then he joined the Navy. I find it odd that Kerry is okay for his service, but the guys on the same boats and with loads of their own medals are muckrakers


26 posted on 08/18/2004 1:10:35 PM PDT by jbwbubba (stunner)
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He is just defending his leader in VVAW.


27 posted on 08/18/2004 1:11:17 PM PDT by gilliam
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I am tired of these accusations that anyone who joined the National Guard in the 1960s was somehow a draft dodger.

Didn't the government have to fill the positions?? Were we just supposed to leave the Guard empty?

What about the Coast Guard. Were they draft dodgers also. A good friend of mine at the time had always wanted to join the Coast Guard, and that's what he did in 1968.

According to Kerry and Hackworth, my friend is a draft dodger.

I wish the National Guard veterans association, or whatever they are, would put out a statement telling Kerry to shut his piehole.


28 posted on 08/18/2004 1:11:37 PM PDT by Edit35
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Sure, Bush dodged the draft

Just like Kerry who enlisted in the Navy hoping for a safe assignment on a ship.

29 posted on 08/18/2004 1:12:55 PM PDT by Aliska
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