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A-10s rescue ambushed OEF ground forces
Army News Service ^ | August 18, 2004 | Master Sgt. Andrew Gates

Posted on 08/18/2004 1:29:52 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Warthog Bump


41 posted on 08/19/2004 6:39:24 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Married men live longer than single men, but married men are a lot more willing to go..)
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To: SAMWolf

When I was active duty I loaded weapons on B-1s, A-10s and F16s. My favorite is the A-10s...it is ugly but effective. Now I am USAFR Medic and I deploy on a regular basis..I get to work with the "true heros" coming in from the battle zone. I have met some amazing men...I know I am AF...but as a medic we are the ones who fly you out and back home to your families...I love my job....


42 posted on 08/19/2004 10:40:23 AM PDT by marmar
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


43 posted on 08/19/2004 11:02:14 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Fierce Allegiance

If you look up the term "Bad Ass" in the American dictionary, there's a picture of a Warthog. If you look up the term "Hammer of God" in a Muslim dictionary, it's the same picture.


44 posted on 08/19/2004 11:14:21 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
“One of the ANA members came up to the group in a lull in the fighting -- they told us they had been captured by the enemy forces,” said Sergeant Osmon. “The enemy said they would release the rest of the ANA team and let us go if we called off the aerial close air support.”

Yeah, right.

45 posted on 08/19/2004 11:18:56 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Shryke

Several years back I did some tank removal/remediation work at a base where they were doing A-10 live fire training. The sound of the gun is amazing if you know it's protecting you, but downright chilling to think what it could do if you are on the receiving end.

The world's slowest jet - major bad-ass bird!


46 posted on 08/19/2004 11:21:04 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Hrm. If I had an A-10 baring down on me.....

I would probably leave the Earth's atmosphere from crappin' mah pants so fast.

47 posted on 08/19/2004 11:24:49 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
My 8 year old twin daughters say "Thats a bad-ass tank killing A-10" when we see them at the airport.

You are gonna have your hands full very shortly! (this comes to you from a father of 21 yearold identicaql twin sons)

Do you have any other kids?

48 posted on 08/19/2004 11:27:54 AM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Chieftain

I have 2 older daughters, 14 and 11.

Yes, the shed i am building will have a lazy-boy, cable & a fridge.

The older 2 are more girly than the twins. The twins are strong athletes (swimming champs)and very hard workers, good at raking rocks, gardening and have a strong desire to learn carpentry, etc.

Yours is 21 and you survived so far? Congrats!

My dad tells me the problems only get bigger and more expensive as they grow. His oldest daughter is 48.


49 posted on 08/19/2004 11:33:18 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Shryke

Only an idiot would mess with a warthog.


50 posted on 08/19/2004 11:35:02 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: HighWheeler; blanknoone
I understand that a few years ago the A-10s beat the snot out of the 16s at Gunsmoke when they first competed with a new system - the Low Altitude Safety and Target Enhancement (Nasty LASTE) system. The CPK for the A-10s that year was less than 1.5 meters, IIRC.

The next year they changed the rules, and the F-16s won the competition again!

51 posted on 08/19/2004 11:37:47 AM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: marmar
I don't care how ugly people say the A-10 is, she's a beauty to me.


52 posted on 08/19/2004 11:44:50 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Married men live longer than single men, but married men are a lot more willing to go..)
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To: SAMWolf
And damn trough too!


53 posted on 08/19/2004 12:02:14 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: MortMan

As a guy on the ground, I was never that concerned with their ability to hit what they were aiming at. Both of them make big booms, and if they miss, they can whack 'em again. I was always less concerned about their ability to hit what they were aiming at and more concerned that they were aiming at the bad guys. Things on the ground can get really chaotic.

With the A-10, that was never a problem. I could have a friendly get to know you chat while they were looking at what I was looking at and make sure we got everything straight before they unleashed hell. I was always amazed that the F16s ever got a good fix on who was where they flew by so fast. On at least on incidence, they hit the wrong tree line. And that was on a range that they had to be familiar with. I know they are all good guys, but it seems like the likelihood of friendly fire mistakes is much much higher with F16s as opposed to A10s. That is not a ding at the pilots, that is a ding on the equipment.

I have no doubt that the F16 is a fine aircraft. It is not a fine CAS aircraft.

Sun Tzu talked about 'if you try to be strong everywhere, you will be strong no where' The F16 is a fine fighter plane, but they compromised on its CAS mission. And if the AF succeeds in getting rid of the A10, that is all the CAS we'll have.

I really dislike even the next generations of 'all purpose' fighter. The very things that make something a good CAS plane make it a poor fighter. And I guarantee that the AF will never compromise its all purpose fighter's air combat abilities to make it a good CAS plane.


54 posted on 08/19/2004 12:51:12 PM PDT by blanknoone (Republicans need to acknowldege that campaign finance reform failed and start setting up 527s.)
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To: tscislaw
In the photos at the site you linked, it looks like the gun is not mounted on the aircraft centerline. I wonder why.
The gun is mounted on the aircraft centerline because of its massive amount of recoil. Fairchild-Republic was given the gun, and tasked to build an aircraft to carry it.
55 posted on 08/19/2004 12:55:56 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Only an idiot would mess with a warthog.
Hey, they are Ragheads ya know.
56 posted on 08/19/2004 12:58:14 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: blanknoone

Actually, I agree with you. Target identification is a primary consideration for CAS. Accuracy is another, though - being able to lay down munitions with precision allows for closer deployment of those weapons to our own troops, when necessary.

I remember the Gunsmoke dustup because I worked on the initial LASTE project.

I was a 14E - PATRIOT Missile System Officer - during Desert Storm, so I have to admit that I have great respect for all of our aircraft and their courageous pilots. But the Warthog will always have a special place in my heart! :-)


57 posted on 08/19/2004 1:02:36 PM PDT by MortMan (Complacency is an enemy sniper)
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To: HighWheeler

Not to mention the fact that F-16s are really good at protecting slower things in the air as well as shooting down slower things in the air. They aren't half bad at delivering large packages to small hostile areas on the ground either.


58 posted on 08/19/2004 1:12:17 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: marmar

Don't get me wrong....the amount of fire power in the weapon sys and the the gun are a thing of true beauty. It just doesn't have the graceful looks of the other 2. I am definately an A-10 girlat heart...I got to go on a couple of refueling missions when I was in Turkey...it is coool...I love my job...


59 posted on 08/19/2004 1:23:37 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: snopercod
GO WARTHOGS!


60 posted on 09/03/2004 3:44:31 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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