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1 posted on 08/19/2004 5:02:21 PM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
Hear what Gardner (one of Kerry's crewmen) says about Kerry:
 
Gardner- Member of Kerry Swiftboat Full Bronze + PH + SCambodia Story

AUDIO BLOWS KERRY'S LIES OUT OF THE WATER.

KERRY OVERWROTE HIS AFTERACTION REPORT EMBELLISHING HIS REPORT FOR HIS SUPERIORS.

HE GOT BRONZE STAR AND PURPLE HEART DUE TO SELF INFLICTED WOUNDS.

I hadn't heard this; Gardner came back from DC with a situation report (SITREP) from the Navy archives for the incident with the sampan. Kerry declared there were 4 enemy who "jumped off the boat and ran ashore" in addition to those KIA. He also declared the small boat (30' long canoe like) had 5500 LBS of contraband (meaning the weight of a good size automobile).

Gardner has some kind of SitRep [Situation Report] that the Kerry supporters haven't seen. This SitRep apparently contradicts Kerry regarding the shooting of the family on a boat. The Rassman Bronze star/PH incident had to generate more than 1 SitRep - there were 5 swifts there - and these guys have the documents to prove that Kerry filed false reports.

Gardner: There is absolutely no way Kerry went up the river into Cambodia, because the river had barriers in it that made entry impossible.

Kerry is screwed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1194251/post

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"

-- Steven Gardner http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes

Steve Gardner (Swift Boat Vietnam Veteran) Audio:

Swiftboat Full Bronze + PH + SCambodia Story
http://www.wbt.com/hancock/index.cfm Look on this page.

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2 posted on 08/19/2004 5:07:39 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: OESY
Have you heard about bookstores that will not only NOT stock the book, but will not special order it.

Then, there was a caller to Hannity that called the Borders Books and the manager told her that they were not selling them and were even recalling the ones they sold for a refund... something about the book being full of lies...? What is that all about? Liberal books are nothing but lies...will Michael Moore's DVD/VHS and companion books be recalled as well?

3 posted on 08/19/2004 5:11:45 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime membership of the "Radical-Right-Wing-Kook-Factor")
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To: OESY

For the record... John Kerry is a bastard.


Can I say that on Free Republic?


4 posted on 08/19/2004 5:13:25 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: OESY

Does anybody know the name of the Neurologist that treated Kerry for his buttocks wound?


6 posted on 08/19/2004 5:19:17 PM PDT by conshack
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To: OESY
How did Kerry come to write the after-action report on the bronze star day?

I understood that Thurlow was the senior officer. How did the job fall to Kerry?

8 posted on 08/19/2004 5:27:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Temple Owl

ping


20 posted on 08/19/2004 6:11:35 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: OESY; snopercod; joanie-f
What a mess.

The story above may be seen to be in conflict with Larry Thurlow's statements.

In the above story, from the book, Unfit for Command:

What Actually Happened

On March 13, 1969, Jack Chenoweth commanded the boat in front of Kerry, and his gunner, Van Odell, had a clear view of the entire incident. Dick Pease commanded PCF 3, which was blown up by the mine that day. None of these Swiftees recognized the incident as described by Kerry in his report, by Douglas Brinkley in Tour of Duty, or on Kerry’s website. They were furious when they realized Kerry’s fraudulent account.

In reality, Kerry’s boat was on the right side of the river when a mine went off on the opposite side, under PCF 3.

Here is Larry Thurlow's statement taken during an interview, posted to FR at Was Rassman Even on Kerry's Boat? - reply no. 66:

THURLOW: My recollection of that day is still pretty vivid after all these years. And what I remember, Judy, is that the incident involving Mr. Rassmann, five boats had come out of the river after running an operation up in the canal earlier that day. Three boats were going through a fishing weir on the left side of the river that had put in place between the time we entered and when we were leaving.

I'm the third boat in that column left. In the column right, there are two boats. The lead boat is John Kerry's.

He's going through a rather small opening on the right bank that (ph) had been left in his boat. The boat leading our column, as it goes through that small opening almost simultaneously, is blasted completely out of the water by a command detonated mine.

As best as I have been able to discover, PCF 3 commanded by Richard W. Pees (some spellings have him as "Pease" even "WQees") was in the lead, left column. Next in that left column was either PCF 23 commanded by (no information linking Jack Chenoweth to PCF 23, but presumably it is Jack Chenoweth, though author Douglas Brinkley places Skip Barker as an OIC for the middle boat in the left column) or PCF 43 commanded by Don Droz. Third in that column was PCF 51 commanded by Larry Thurlow.

In the right column, is PCF 94 commanded by John Kerry, followed by either PCF 23 or PCF 43.

Douglas Barker's article, John Kerry's Final Mission in Vietnam, first page of four (found online), excerpt:

[Tthe boats gathered at the mouth of the Rach Dong Cung, prior to heading up that canal and conduction operations there ... ]

Finally PCF-94 arrived at the opening to the small Dong Cung canal, where it was to rendezvous with the Swifts skippered by Lieutenants Skip Barker, Don Droz and Larry Thurlow, who would join them bearing the South Vietnamese Popular Forces members (called "Ruff-Puffs") they had picked up in Cai Nuoc.

Douglas Brinkley may have done a poor job, but the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have not established by providing evidence --- logbooks, military records, repair depot logs, previous SITREPS, etc. --- the pertinent boat numbers and boats' crewmembers. They have not provided any accurate chart and backed it up.

22 posted on 08/19/2004 6:58:10 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Mark


27 posted on 08/19/2004 8:44:16 PM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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To: OESY
boat or PCF 35

Typo in the book itself, I would guess (Amazon still hasn't delivered the copy I ordered). Thurlow was OIC of the 53 boat.

38 posted on 08/21/2004 5:11:35 AM PDT by sevry
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To: OESY

John Effin' Liar...


43 posted on 08/21/2004 5:27:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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