Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Senator (Kerry) believed allegations could no longer be ignored (((drum roll)))
The Boston Globe ^ | August 20, 2004 | Patrick Healy and Michael Kranish

Posted on 08/20/2004 1:51:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-99 next last
To: Jeff Chandler
IT'S AS IF AMERICA'S BERLIN WALL HAS BEEN TORN DOWN!!!!!!!!!

I still have friends who think I'm out of mind for thinking that wall ever existed.

I never dreamed the NY Slimes would have the rug yanked out from under them.

This is indeed a wonderful development for our country.

41 posted on 08/20/2004 2:54:18 AM PDT by zarf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
"When you're under attack," Kerry said in his speech yesterday, "the best thing to do is turn your boat into the attack."

Let's see, if Kerry would have done that in V.N. wouldn't Rassman have fallen into the boat?

42 posted on 08/20/2004 2:56:05 AM PDT by ohCompGk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
Also, said O'Neill, Kerry closed the Democratic National Convention with a story in which he claimed that five swiftboats fled on March 13, 1969, after a mine explosion and only he came back to rescue Lt. James Rassman. His campaign now is admitting that he fled and the rest stayed, before he later returned for Rassman.

As excerpted from another post. Botox boy's got some 'splainin' to do to the American people.

RELEASE THE RECORDS, MONSIEUR KERRY!

I'm donating to the Swifties right now.

43 posted on 08/20/2004 2:56:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dawn53
"There were a number of us who were following it closely and trying to measure it and you don't want to react and give a story more legs than it is entitled to. But when it became clear the story did have legs -- once I reached the conclusion it wasn't going to blow over -- I did express the opinion that we have to respond."

Modern presidential campaigns do not make life or death tactical about faces because a story has "legs." Nor is such a decision normally made on whim, even the whim of the candidate himself unless it is spontaneous. I believe Kerry and his staff have thoroughly thought the dangers of this counter attack through. This about face could only have come as a result of internal polling numbers.

The New York Times, the parent paper, which no doubt shares the same sources within the Kerry campaign, said this:

Senior Democrats, including some inside the presidential campaign, have urged Kerry to respond forcefully to the criticism, fearing that if left unanswered, it could hamper his quest for the White House

This is an extremely risky strategy for Kerry. He would not embark upon it unless he had to and he knows he has to because he has seen polling data. I do not credit the explanation that he is reacting emotionally to the disrespect he caught at the VFW convention. It is conceivable that he is laying a trap for either Bush or the Vets. It is probable that he has made a calculation that he will get sufficient cover from the MSM to finesse the risks.

Bush himself should not attempt to exploit this opening. But surrogates can and should. Kerry has invited debate, Bush should not take the bait but O'Neill can demand a debate and when Kerry declines, as he will, the attack can continue that now Kerry is hiding himself as well as his records. This is not to say that O'Neill is a surrogate. He has a good bio, by the way and presents himself quite well.

44 posted on 08/20/2004 2:57:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack... Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
... swing voters think one of Kerry's core characteristics has been undermined

What is the Boston Globe talking about? Kerry has no 'core characteristics'!
45 posted on 08/20/2004 3:03:07 AM PDT by 6SJ7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: USMCVet
Kerry's post-Viet Nam activities will be covered in the new Swifties ad that comes out today.
46 posted on 08/20/2004 3:03:37 AM PDT by YaYa123 ( @ I Can Hardly Wait To See It.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Then, Wednesday night, Kerry told his aides that he had to act. As he sat down inside his Louisburg Square home on Beacon Hill, Kerry scrawled two phrases on a yellow legal pad about his antagonists, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The group, Kerry wrote, was "a front for the Bush campaign" and "he wants them to do his dirty work"

Could this be more dramatic? I guess we are to believe the two who wrote this article were standing directly behind Kerry, reading over his shoulder. How else could they have read his "scrawling"?

And how flattering! Kerry was able to write these brilliant attack lines as he was in the process of sitting! What excellent butt, hand coordination he has!!

47 posted on 08/20/2004 3:12:26 AM PDT by YaYa123 ( @What A Guy.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
Come on GeronL. You've got to update. "Back in the day" is the cool way to describe times past. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that phrase lately! I don't know where it started or when.
48 posted on 08/20/2004 3:18:24 AM PDT by YaYa123 ( @Back In The Day.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Dane

Great picture. I love the Fulbright connection. Heh, heh.


49 posted on 08/20/2004 3:33:56 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: dawn53

""When you're under attack," Kerry said in his speech yesterday, "the best thing to do is turn your boat into the attack.""

Based on what really happened that should read, "When you think you're under attack, the best thing to do is run like a little girl."



50 posted on 08/20/2004 3:36:59 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife

The questions for Kerry include:
1. Were you or were you not in Cambodia on Christmas eve of 1968? If you were there, who ordered you to go?
2. Who signed your purple heart authorizations?
3. Why did you turn on your country and your fellow soldiers in your "winter soldiers" campaign?
4. Why won't you release your military and medical records?

This article says that Kerry finally decided to confront his questioners. Too long had he kept quiet. Now we will finally hear the real truth. That truth as Kerry spoke it was, "Everything is Bush's fault."


51 posted on 08/20/2004 3:45:26 AM PDT by Puzzleman (Bush = Steadfast leadership in time of change)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EQAndyBuzz

Nah. Just squeal a manly girl and hide behind your metrosexual surrogrates.


52 posted on 08/20/2004 3:46:20 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Puzzleman

Everything is the fault of those eevil Republicans!


53 posted on 08/20/2004 3:47:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: hotshu
How true! They supposedly perform this service for 20 years for Kerry, yet *still* don't have the talking points in order?

We're reaching a point with Kerry's inaccuracies and re-restatements of the "truth" at which comparisons can be made to similar Clinton misstatements during the 92 campaign.

The inferences independents and swing voters may draw from this are good, IMO.

54 posted on 08/20/2004 3:48:28 AM PDT by LincolnLover (Nader/Camejo 2004: Yeah, Libs, That's The Ticket!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: IPWGOP
He certainly is!

Check this out: Swift boat crew member glad to see nominee (Kerry) fighting back***.... Kimo Williams, a Vietnam vet and executive director of the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum in Chicago, said he's been waiting for Kerry to fight back but that exaggeration was part of the culture in Vietnam. "You'll hear this from any veteran who is upfront about it: When we were there, we were always trying to find ways to take advantage of our situation," he said. "So when I look at John Kerry and the situation he was in, it's easy for me to say, 'OK, he may have done that.' But I don't see anything wrong if Kerry not so much falsified it but exaggerated it to make sure he got his Purple Heart."

Other local veterans are far more skeptical and say they will never forgive Kerry for joining the anti-war movement when he got back to the United States.

"I'm a Democrat, but without a doubt, I'm voting for Bush," said Thomas Maher, a Vietnam vet from Mount Greenwood who has never voted Republican in a presidential race. "If everything he did in Vietnam was totally correct, God bless him. . . . But you don't speak out against your own country."

Dennis Rombola, a Streamwood bus driver who was a gunner on Army helicopters in Vietnam, said he just doesn't believe Kerry.

"I got hit by some shrapnel and never took a Purple Heart," Rombola said. "To me, I think Kerry's a phony."

55 posted on 08/20/2004 3:52:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Cboldt

I haven't seen it yet.


56 posted on 08/20/2004 3:53:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It was gathering a life of its own, "

Number one best selling books that are hidden from view in bookstores have a tendancy to do that.

57 posted on 08/20/2004 3:57:57 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dahoser

"Unlike the usual puddle the floor Republican routine, these guys are not only standing their ground, they're taking more each day.""

Probably because they are not all Repulicans.


58 posted on 08/20/2004 3:59:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase

READ ALL OF THIS

Swift boat crew member glad to see nominee (Kerry) fighting back
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 20, 2004 | SHAMUS TOOMEY

John Kerry was "way too much of a gentleman" when he let attacks on his Vietnam War record go unanswered, a former swift boat mate said Thursday while
praising Kerry's decision to fight back.

"I talked to him on Monday. It's eating him up," said Jim Wasser, now an electrician in Kankakee. "He said, 'This is hurting me. It's tearing me up.'

"I know the real John Kerry. And John Kerry is proud of what's he's done," Wasser said. "He waited too long. I'm glad he finally came out. I'm proud of him."

Wasser, an unpaid Kerry campaign worker who spent six weeks on the rivers and canals of Vietnam with the presidential hopeful in the late 1960s, was among the
local Vietnam veterans who have anxiously awaited Kerry's response to ads run by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The ads claim Kerry exaggerated his
combat record to win medals.

Wasser said that from what he witnessed, Kerry's wartime record is legitimate. Soldiers speaking out against Kerry were on separate swift boats and not close
enough to know what they're talking about, Wasser said.

Kimo Williams, a Vietnam vet and executive director of the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum in Chicago, said he's been waiting for Kerry to fight back but
that exaggeration was part of the culture in Vietnam. "You'll hear this from any veteran who is upfront about it: When we were there, we were always trying to find
ways to take advantage of our situation," he said. "So when I look at John Kerry and the situation he was in, it's easy for me to say, 'OK, he may have done that.'
But I don't see anything wrong if Kerry not so much falsified it but exaggerated it to make sure he got his Purple Heart."

Other local veterans are far more skeptical and say they will never forgive Kerry for joining the anti-war movement when he got back to the United States.

"I'm a Democrat, but without a doubt, I'm voting for Bush," said Thomas Maher, a Vietnam vet from Mount Greenwood who has never voted Republican in a
presidential race. "If everything he did in Vietnam was totally correct, God bless him. . . . But you don't speak out against your own country."

Dennis Rombola, a Streamwood bus driver who was a gunner on Army helicopters in Vietnam, said he just doesn't believe Kerry.

"I got hit by some shrapnel and never took a Purple Heart," Rombola said. "To me, I think Kerry's a phony."

Contributing: AP

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1195315/posts


59 posted on 08/20/2004 3:59:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: massatoosits

But Kerry denied that in the debates that just replayed last weekend on CSPAN. Are you accusing him of....lying?


60 posted on 08/20/2004 4:07:31 AM PDT by IrishRainy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-99 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson