Science seen as slipping in U.S.

Houston Chronicle ^ | August 22, 2004 | ERIC BERGER

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Hidden amid the hoopla of finding planets orbiting other stars, decoding the human genome and discovering miracle materials with nanotechnology, there's a seemingly improbable but perhaps even more important story — U.S. science may be in decline.

The U.S. education system is broken.

Another Mistake by Rod Paige (Sec of Ed calls teachers union "terrorist organization") And he is right!

[GeronL]

These reporters are crazy. Public schools are failing, period.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Public schools are failing, period.

Our country's strength is in peril with the decline of education and the family.

[TheLion]

"Since the visa restrictions were tightened in 2002, foreign-student applications to U.S. universities have fallen from 400,000 a year to 325,000, a 19 percent drop."

The ones walking across are borders will probably not be applying soon. Somehow we have got this all a** backwards.

[familyop]

...feminism, fatherlessness, not much manufacturing in the USA,...

[Porterville]

Damn, it's been slipping for the past 50 years now?

Good thing we got to the moon\

mars

Computer Science

Genomic Science

Biological Science

Medical Science

Pharmacuetical Science

and all the other sciences first... it will keep us alive just a little longer

I personally think these stories are made to keep our society motivated so we can yet again... kick the world's a$$.......

We educate more people then any country in the world... that is why they all come here to learn.... we are free.... we use volume to plant seeds of genius in the ripe soil of multiple minds....

The rest of the world focuses their attention on a select few inbreded class with poor genes from years of regency inbreeding.... not good soil for fertile seeds to grow.... not at all

We are the USA and we EDUCATE THE WORLD.... and do it better than anybody else

[Porterville]

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Years ago I asked him WHY we never went back to the moon... He said that it was "political" ?????

He's right. We went to the Moon to beat the Russians. It wasn't about science at all.

Then Carl Sagan got on his "Search for Life" soapbox and Saganized NASA, and the agency faltered.

Now President Bush has initiated "Moon, Mars and Beyond" to create a space infastructure that will use the Moon's resourses to explode a space industry and get us into the solar system.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Imagine what we could have done and where we would be if we truly were at our best.

[Porterville]

Maybe exploring Mars...or mapping the human genome... or finding cures for cancer... or finding ways to protect our nation from ICBMs... or discovering new ways to communicate with the world (I'm in CA by the beach where are you).... or discovering new forms of energy...ect...ect...ect...

[Nick Danger]

A continual flow of foreign students into our science and engineering programs is essential. Without it, the deliberate dumbing-down of American schoolboys by the feminist-operated education establishment would be exposed. Despite the feminist fantasies, it is mostly boys who pursue these science and engineering degrees. If the education establishment mentally cripples the boys so they will not be in the girls' way, and then the girls don't enroll in the engineering schools anyway, we get this. Plus we get passed up by foreigners in science and technology, and we get a generation of boys who can't read, write, add, or subtract.

Think I'm nuts? 60% of the incoming freshman classes are now female, and you just learned that an ever-growing fraction of the men who are there are being imported from foreign countries. This is not an accident folks. This is feminist social engineering coming to fruition. Think about a world where it's the Chinese and the Indians who have all the high-tech weapons, and we have nothing comparable. It isn't 30 years away.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Is there something wrong with self-criticism?

Is there something wrong with pointing out failure, in order to improve?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

It is dismal and getting worse.

[The Raven]

I'm reading three books now...by Milton Friedman, Hayak, and Thomas Sowell - on how big government will destry us

They're scaring the bazoozies out of me.

This is all predictable.

[familyop]

"Another Mistake by Rod Paige (Sec of Ed calls teachers union "terrorist organization") And he is right!"

...great exposure post and thread, CW. I've seen open hostility from teachers--all divorced--during school hours regarding kids with mild autism/Asperger's. They complain about men in general and about getting those kids out of school. They know what some of those kids could do in adulthood if given the attention they need to their extreme focus on various physical things, and it makes them very angry.

[familyop]

Er...and talk about getting those kids out of school, that is.

[The Raven]

A few years ago....a couple of us Freepers slipped on over to the teacher's on-line chat forum and raized a little havoc.

We used words foreign to them ---"vouchers," "republic," "freedom," "liberty," & "Republicans"

[Porterville]

No, but there is also nothing wrong with recognizing that we are the best. I hear all to often that we are not doing so hot...

If we aren't it sure seems like everyone else wants to be like us...

It has always been that way... they always wanted to be like us

Go almost... almost... anywhere in the world... they would love to have your opportunity... to even study science here.