Posted on 08/22/2004 4:40:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, August 21st, 2004
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Van O'Dell of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. George Allen, R-Va.; Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J.; Kerry campaign adviser Tad Devine; Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan; Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.; Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's daughters, Vanessa and Alexandra.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta; John O'Neill of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth; Kerry economic adviser Gene Sperling; Rep. Rob Portman, R-Ohio.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : David Kay, former chief U.N. weapons inspector; former Sen. Bob Dole, R-Kan.; Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.; Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn.; Rep. Christopher Cox, R-Calif.; Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.; Democratic strategist Donna Brazile; Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas; Rend al-Rahim Francke, chief of Iraq's diplomatic mission in Washington.
Ceci agrees with Brit, Kerry now has a disputed war record, because of the Swiftboat ad
Kristol says Wash Post points out Kerry has NOT made all his records available.
Juan says Swifties account of events change from day to day, "they are lying". "This is a political hit piece. These people are being taken advantage of...."
Ceci agrees, "yes, Cambodia is problematic...but put Cambodia aside". And then, unlike emotional, uninformed, Koolaid drinking Juan, Ceci makes some very good points against the Swifties. She's done her homework.
Chris Wallace factoid: Ronald Reagan took 97% of the Electoral college vote against Mondale.
(lots of commercials, thankfully Bob and his woodie didn't appear on a Sunday morning!) Back to business:
Dang! Ceci's fine arguments go unresponded too. Chris changes the subject. I hate when that happens!!
Brit points out Kerry's flip flopping on South Korea troop pull-out.
Ceci says the danger for the Bush campaign is the discussion will switch to Bush's national guard. Brit interrupts to say Bush has never made it part of his campaign.
Kristol thinks the dispute will go on longer because of the 2nd Swiftboat ad, which is Kerry's own public testimony.
Juan is just an idiot, can't keep his calm, repeats the charge "this is a Bush attack, a political rant and smear."
Kristol just shakes his head at Juan's blind obstinence.
Kerry spoke of creating a "time bomb" etc. I knew some VVAW's personally and what Kerry meant was that returning vets would become a paramilitary force on American soil. It was a threat, and many in VVAW believed that civil war was coming.
As a Viet Nam vet I have to agree with your post. I mentioned at a men's prayer meeting yesterday that I thought this could be the time (3 decades late) when the healing could begin.
Schieffer acknowledges that Bush spent enough time in the NG to learn to fly a jet plane. Out of context that sounds nasty but he was being as fair as we can expect, and in the context of his remarks it was complimentary. Implication being, flying jet planes isn't easy.
They did discuss Cambodia. Podesta was pathetic and weak!
In retrospect, however, I am glad that Kerry brought up the VN War.
Fox News is not on yet in the San Diego area, but nice to see that Juan is still dumber than the rocks in my yard. This thread is a great service to me, as I can now decide whether to watch later.
I've been disatisfied with the Bushies' answer to that question. Shouldn't they say something like: The real question is whether, in light of the 9/11 attacks, the burst of the internet bubble, corporate scandals and a recession---both of which he inherited---are Americans better off because of George W. Bush's leadership as president and commander in chief? And the answer to that would be a resound YES. Then go into the particulars.
OH SH@T! I did mean the book, 'The New Soldier' in my post. DANG!
Georgie played both SBVT ads in their entirety without anyone talking over them.
No matter what Podesta said, O'Neill countered with the truth, and won EVERY point, IMO.
It was great.
Viewers also get to see the key points of the ads.
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It cannot be denied that the men speaking on the second ad were being tortured while Kohn Kerry was denouncing them before Congress.
Lovely? I hope you are being sarcastic! Ugh they are not very attractive looking girls!
All Kerry does is trot out his spinners, ie, Hurley, Podesta, Lanny Davis, etc., against a SBVT. I'd love to see an actual vet Kerry supporter up against O'Neil or O'Dell.
Yeppers!
LLS
The Dems making an issue of Bush's record will backfire. They clearly have no strategy on how to win against the Swiftboat Vets. Good!
Sadly, they have been kidnapped.;-)
Hurley on FNS---Kerry was near, around, sort of close to Cambodia...
[Trouble is, Kerry used his 'in Cambodia' to decry Nixon for sending troops secretly into Cambodia. If the 'in' becomes 'near' then Kerry's whole reason for the Christmas in Cambodia becomes a lie. Then, Kerry tries the 'working for the CIA' story. So, what happens to all the nearly 50 times Kerry has retold the C in C story during the last 35 years? No matter how they spin the C in C, it comes up that part of the story is a lie.]
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