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So it begins. (A swiftvet bomb on Kerrybodia you haven't heard of yet.)
SwiftVets.com ^ | 72 hours from now | A 'concerned' brownwater sailor

Posted on 08/23/2004 2:13:22 AM PDT by Belisaurius

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To: finnigan2

Swiftvets just went offline, I was on the site replying on a thread, and now I can't do anything.


121 posted on 08/23/2004 8:55:19 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: js1138

Memories.

Quidam returns!


http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3973a8a44c0e.htm


122 posted on 08/23/2004 8:55:39 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Rutles4Ever
Robert Novak made a cryptic statement on Capital Gang this weekend to the effect that someone new was going to come forward with additional corroboration of the SwiftVet allegations...

Novak was referring to the first purple heart, and a witness who was on the boat who is going to come forward to corroborate that there was no enemy fire. The guy, William Schachte is now a rear admiral, and he refutes Kerry's report. Two other guys (Patrick Runyon and William Zaldonis) on the boat sort of back up Kerry, and have said that Schachte wasn't there. He must have some good proof that he was there, and that will discredit Kerry and the other two.

In Unfit for Command, it says that Schachte was in charge of the mission and was on the boat and that Kerry was in Officer training. When Kerry fired a grenade at too close a range and got hit with shrapnel, Schachte berated Kerry for almost putting someone's eye out.

123 posted on 08/23/2004 8:57:14 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: Let's Roll

"The very best riposte was to let Juan continue ranting."

Wjuanie is the first that I have heard to outright call the "Swift Boat heroes" liars. IMO that is a legal term, not a political term.


124 posted on 08/23/2004 8:59:47 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Belisaurius

Hey Bel, stay out of Fort Marcy park and Airplanes. If this nails the coffin on lurch it just may be the thing hitlary has been waiting for. Then she can be the savior of the dumocraps.


125 posted on 08/23/2004 9:00:51 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: VRWC_minion

Now all we need is the return of Deep Throat in the Hurtchen Forest.


126 posted on 08/23/2004 9:01:10 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Belisaurius

bttt


127 posted on 08/23/2004 9:10:13 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Belisaurius
"...or he knows exactly where everything is located at in the Naval Archives..."

That gives "the Sandman" Berger three days to "sanitize" and make all this go away. Hmm...better keep tabs on fat boy's location the next couple of days.

128 posted on 08/23/2004 9:19:55 AM PDT by LincolnLover ("Jagshemash, I like you!")
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To: weegee
The 3 dead Austrians will be voting in Chicago for John Kerry.

Sure, but the real question is, how many times?

CA....

129 posted on 08/23/2004 9:40:27 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: longfellow

There's no threat to me, I'm not the one who knows anything. I just posted a link to someone claiming that he does.


130 posted on 08/23/2004 10:01:07 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: All

BTW I am overseas right now accessing Foxnews.com.

Why is google puttin and ad on "vote for kerry absentee" on a fox website?


131 posted on 08/23/2004 10:18:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: boxerblues; Commiewatcher

Thanks for the ping.

(CW, pinging to you!)


132 posted on 08/23/2004 3:40:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Let's roll" in 2004 ----- Vote GOP!)
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To: Belisaurius
I remember how everybody was snookered when Clinton was s'posed to turn purple during his testimony.

I'll believe it when I see it.

133 posted on 08/23/2004 3:44:36 PM PDT by TomServo ("Meanwhile, the Midvale police visit his locker and find out why they call him 'Buzz'...")
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To: Belisaurius

Are you in FT Marcys park yet? What's happening with this? Sh*t is hitting the fan did you have anything to do with it?


134 posted on 08/25/2004 9:19:01 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: prairiebreeze
yes, I read that. The question becomes, how can they air that after the 60 day time limit on 527's goes into effect? I wonder if a documentary is somehow not classified as an ad, therefore making it OK.

A 527 group financed by individual contributions (defined as NOT by corporate or union funding) are not restricted during the last 60 days before the election.

135 posted on 08/25/2004 9:33:20 AM PDT by Bob
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To: js1138
It would be seared in your memory.

It would also sear holes in your boat. This incident didn't.

You'd expect at least one or two of the injuries reported would have been gunshot wounds. None of them were.

136 posted on 08/25/2004 9:37:11 AM PDT by Bob
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To: rocklobster11
Two other guys (Patrick Runyon and William Zaldonis) on the boat sort of back up Kerry, and have said that Schachte wasn't there.

Neither of them has said that there was enemy fire. One has said that he didn't know how kerry was injured. The other has said that he didn't even know that kerry was injured.

Since this incident has been described as a training mission for kerry, I think they're wrong about Schacte not being on the small boat. It makes no sense at all to be sending your green trainee out on the skimmer, on his own, while the training officer who's supervising him remains behind on the accompanying Swift.

137 posted on 08/25/2004 9:48:13 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Thanks, I read that in the last day or two as well.


138 posted on 08/25/2004 2:49:54 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: Belisaurius

Contrary to other comments posted, this is exactly how a veteran and especially an enlisted brown water squid would talk. My guess is that every news commentator out there doesn't even know what a shellback is, having never crossed the equater with the blue water Navy. I have been waiting for this since the SBVT's story first broke. The Navy that I have worked with has so much paper it is any wonder it stays afloat. There is bound to be binders of material to support the actual truth. Veterans love to talk war stories and under intense pressure of combat it is surprising how much detail is truly tatooed into the brain like carving images into stone. Lets wait and see what additional information comes forth.


139 posted on 08/25/2004 3:55:17 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Bob

Last night while John O'Neill was on Hannity and Colmes, Alan was spewing the Demonrat talking point that the Swiftees are lying about there being no enemy fire because the boats had documented damage.

O'Neill replied that the damage had been sustained the day before, but of course that didn't deter Alan from repeating it when the Washington Post guy came on in the next segment.


140 posted on 08/25/2004 4:16:47 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Donate to the SwiftVets!)
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