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To: TheCrusader
This whole thing has become preposterous. Why would the "public" be offended or harmed by this employee's personal beliefs?

It depends on the beliefs, doesn't it? I can think of lots of beliefs that crank me off. I don't want to hear about them in a place of business.

And even if somebody does feel 'offended' by the little Biblical verses on his cubicle wall, why would anyone else give a rat's tail about the "poor victim's" alleged hurt feelings?

Because it's an office. The person across the desk from you is somebody you're supposed to be serving in some way.

Should we allow our Constitutional rights to privacy and religious freedom to be overthrown by the liberals' pretentious sensitivities?

There are offices in the company I work for where you aren't allowed personal mementos of any kind on your desk. No picture of the kids, nothing. Those are creepy offices, I admit, but well within the rights of an employer. When you are at work, your rights are largely what your employer says they are (well, in a real world job, not a government job). Don't like it? They always need a hand at Mickey D's.

Would stand up equally for someone's right to post Koranic verses about beheading infidels? Or pro-abortion propaganda? Think that would be good for business?

17 posted on 08/24/2004 2:15:19 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: prion
Would stand up equally for someone's right to post Koranic verses about beheading infidels? Or pro-abortion propaganda? Think that would be good for business?

Point well taken. However, if a gay guy had a poster "celebrating" gay pride week or month or moment, etc., would that have been an issue with these supervisors? Could you imagin him/her/it being asked to take the poster down? How 'bout if a Muslim had his prayer mat in his cubicle? I know for a FACT (because I was a government contractor in State of California offices) that just about any left-wing cause from environmentalism to minority rights to gay rights, to pro-Gray Davis posters could be openly displayed in most state employee's offices, BECAUSE I SAW THEM DISPLAYED OPENLY THERE!

Why is it that social conservatives must be very, very careful to avoid any possible offense to any possible person, while the political and social left (including many "moderate Republicans") are generally "in your face" about their beliefs and causes.

I'm sorry, but your argument greatly favors those in the political left who would, and do, act in their official capacity to silence any dissent to leftist policies. If you were the supervisor in that situation, you might have run a very sterile environment, avoiding such problems. But in the real world, this guy has been singled out for retribution because of his personal and religious beliefs, and they're da*n well going to make certain he's silent and invisable, or better yet, out of public service altogether. That's what this situation is all about - not the guys signs in his cubicle; they're just the pretense.

This is how you arrive at a 90%+ plurality of leftist running the "mainstream media", why few non-leftist voices are found in major universities, and why most government employees run in lock step with the leftist politics. If I ran a major business where 90%+ of my employees were WASP, I could soon expect a law suit by a radical leftist organization, joined by the government, because of "latent racist" hiring policies. However, a government agency can employ over 90% Democrats, Government Universities can employ over 90% leftist professors, no media professional or actor can MENTION he's a conservative, and yet no one dare ask how in the world such a skewing of the labor pool occurs.

I won't impune your motives. I assume you're sincere in simply wanting a just, fair, level playing field. But the VAST majority of people don't get upset at someone who has a sticker that is pro-(traditional)-family or pro-traditional-Christianity. The only folks who get uptight about that are radical athiests .... and radical leftist who use their office to punish those who they see as "evil doers", i.e. anyone who doesn't think "correctly" like they do.

I hope this guys wins, and takes the California treasury to his bank. (After all, most of the leftist organizations are state funded, why shouldn't he get his "fair share".)

SFS

18 posted on 08/24/2004 3:36:27 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone (SFS)
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To: prion
"Would stand up equally for someone's right to post Koranic verses about beheading infidels? Or pro-abortion propaganda? Think that would be good for business?"

The fact is that it should never be considered wrong to do what's right, no matter whom the 'right' actions may displease. When there is a government sanction for some insignificant little display of our Christian faith then it is rightly called religious oppression, which we willingly suffer for Christ. But let's at least call it what it is, religious oppression, and nevermind diluting our faith under the guise of this PC balderdash of 'offending' others of different faiths. Christians submit to Christ, not to His enemies.

All of this dissention arises directly from our 'multi cultural' and 'diverse' mentality. We are no longer 'ONE nation under God', but have become one piece of real estate under many gods. That's why these little battles constantly crop up all over our country and keep us divided, and make us weak.

We live in an age where truth and absolutes have been supplanted by 'moral relativism'. In other words the new teaching is that 'truth is in the eye of the individual'. For just as long as people take this demonic bait we'll always have these devisive and unnecessary dissentions among ourselves. No matter what you may say, or counter with, I will always be able to prove my point simply by pointing to our entire American history, which has traditionally allowed the expression of Chrisitianity in both the private and public spheres.

Never before, (until this generation), has the Christian religion and its expression been banned from public places. From banning school prayer to banning public displays of the Manger Scene; from outlawing Bibles in public schools to removing references to Christ or the Ten Commandments in public buildings, all of this is the new-age America, and it severs our moral and spiritual ties with our American ancestors. It has little or no connection whatsoever with our history or our heritage. In fact, Christian truths used to be TAUGHT in public schools, and printed in public school books. Bronze plaques relating to Christianity were fastened to the stone structures of our public buildings, City Halls, Court Houses and Libraries all accross America. States mandated that businesses close on Sundays in observance of the Sabbath.

I think your problem is that you've never been taught that right and wrong, good and evil do actually exist. You take a stand with one side or the other, there is no 'gray area', no middle ground. You are either with Christ or against Him, (Luke 10:16).

25 posted on 08/24/2004 12:59:06 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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