FOX News: Kerry Campaign Admits SBVT May Be Right?

FOX News ^ | August 23, 2004 | FOX News

[Qwinn2]

I consider it pointless to go after the 2nd Purple Heart. He's got the shrapnel in his leg. There likely was at least -some- enemy fire, even if it probably wasn't "intense". It likely meets the requirements for a Purple Heart. It's the Swiftvet's weakest case, and only telling once you've accepted the pattern of all the other lies and exaggerations. If you haven't accepted that pattern yet so that it can be put into that context, seeing it presented as an attempt to discredit Kerry just looks overly picky and discredits the severity and amount of evidence in the 1st and 3rd medals.

Actually, I kinda feel the same way about the Silver Star. It's the Swiftvet's 2nd weakest case. None of them were actually there - they're just offering their own judgment call of whether or not what Kerry did rises to the level of a Silver Star.

The real meat is in the 1st PH, 3rd PH and the Bronze Star. That's where Kerry's mendacity really shines through.

Qwinn

[BunnySlippers]

Move on ... dot com ...

[beyond the sea]

But in Kerry's own journal, written 9 days later, he writes he and his crew, "hadn't been shot at yet."

He wasn't shot at before he was shot at!

;-)

[beyond the sea]

This is very hugh and series.

No sh*t. This is series as a hart attic.

[FesterUSMC]

Actually i believe he threw his medals at the Capital NOT the White House...

[FesterUSMC]

just because you have shrapnel doesn't mean it was from enemy fire! Kerry got that would from his OWN grenade from gross negligence! Rassman already talked about this in Kerry's biography

[igoramus987]

he real meat is in the 1st PH, 3rd PH and the Bronze Star. That's where Kerry's mendacity really shines through.

It was just a post to confirm that what Michelle Malkin was saying was true, and point out that every single medal has a question mark.

You are right...

Purple Heart 1 - Kerry campaign have just said that it is probably self inflicted. Also there is no after action report, like for the other 2 Purple Hearts, which is always required after hostile combat action.
c.f. link
"Kerry Purple Heart "Spot" Reports [pdf: 210kb] This file contains after-action ("spot") reports from two of the combat actions in which John Kerry was wounded."

Purple Heart 3 - You can't get a Purple Heart for a bruise. The butt wound occurred earlier in the day in an unrelated incident. However the butt wound appears in Kerry's citation.

[malia]

"---It's the Swiftvet's 2nd weakest case."

All this was to get our attention and show what and who Kerry really is--!

The real show is on it's way.

Exposure of Kerry's betrayal.

MSM is saying -- these are old wounds, this is digging up old feelings. Why can't we get past the Vietnam war.

We will never get past Vietnam until our men and women are vindicated. And Kerry owes this to the veterans. Publically. Kerry must apoligize for all his lies. Acknowledge all the hurt he inflicted. Then we can all move on.

Maybe.

[Reactionary]

It's nice to know Fox News is getting their news from Free Republic.

[Radioactive]

This swift boat thing is interesting.

But I think what is even more interesting is John Kerry is a dead beat dad!

His first wife sued for divorce and John Kerry was not paying child support.

John Kerry BTW is by far the biggest hero of any US war in History!

He got 3 purple hearts and never went to the hospital!

He got a silver star in less than 90 days!

He was filmed extensively because people knew this man was a Hero! He was destined to get the silver star because he was so brave!

He was even more a hero than Audi Murphy!

JOhn Kerry---deadbeat dad Vietnam 90 day wonder war hero...what a great man.......NOT

The question that must be answerd is....Why would John Kerry focus his presidential run on being in Vietnam, lying about being a war hero, lying about being in Cambodia, when these things could be checked out and his lies exposed?

And why would the Demoncrats nominate this LIAR knowing that this guy is so full of BS and is JUST A GIGGILO?

[dawn53]

This is because some sharp eyed person noted that his book says after this that they had NOT received incoming fire yet.

[Future Useless Eater]

Here is the EXACT transcript of what Major Garrett said today on Special Report...

[ following a segment about Podesta and O'Neill ]
Garrett:   ... and questions keep coming. For example, Kerry received a purple heart for wounds suffered December 2nd 1968. But in Kerry's own journal written nine days later, he writes: He and his crew QUOTE hadn't been shot at yet UNQUOTE. Kerry's campaign has said it is possible his first purple heart was awarded for an unintentionally self-inflicted wound.

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Another very good, and related point, IMO, was mentioned on another thread...
Kerry was turned down in division 14 for that first purple heart. He supposedly waited and re-submitted it after he was no longer under Commander Hibbard. Kerry went to division 11 Jan 30th, and Kerry's 1st P.H. was approved Feb 28th.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1197862/posts

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...another thing
From last week's interview of RASSMAN by the Washington Post, regarding the MORNING of March 13th:

As they were heading back to the boat, Kerry and Rassmann decided to blow up a five-ton rice bin to deny food to the Vietcong. In an interview last week, Rassmann recalled that they climbed on top of the huge pile and dug a hole in the rice. On the count of three, they tossed their grenades into the hole and ran.

Evidently, Kerry did not run fast enough. "He got some frags and pieces of rice in his rear end," Rassmann said with a laugh. "It was more embarrassing than painful." At the time, the incident did not seem significant, and Kerry did not mention it to anyone when he got back on the boat. An unsigned "personnel casualty report," however, erroneously implies that Kerry suffered "shrapnel wounds in his left buttocks" later in the day, following the mine explosion incident, when he also received "contusions to his right forearm." [ie, a BRUISE]

From the navy's Spot Report of the AFTERNOON of March 13th; after the river mine explosion under Lt. Pees' PCF 3 boat:

LTJG JOHN F. KERRY, USNR, HSHRAPNEL WOUND LEFT
BUTTOCK AND CONTUSION RT. FOREARM (MINOR);

The WaPo has caught Kerry in ANOTHER NAVY FRAUD! ... and THAT one was his ticket home!

(I also had not realized until now, Kerry was in the Navy RESERVES)

[WestVirginiaRebel]

John Kerry-Rice-A-Phony.

[stockpirate]

ping

[xm177e2]

I can't believe Kerry would admit this... the evidence must be overwhelming. Kerry must want to pick his battles and fight over other medals.

[arthurus]

Which, for his own self preservation, is what he should have done early on.If he had released his records and said hey that was then- this is now there would have hardly been any noise at all. He is ashamed somewhere in his soul for his past and therefore cannot act rationally about it. Clinton would have known what to do- a document dump on Friday afternoon and it's all old news by Monday.

[guitfiddlist]

Kerry's campaign has said it is possible his first Purple Heart was awarded for unintentionally self-inflicted wounds.

Paging Lanny Davis...urgent call for Lanny Davis...the DNC needs your brilliant excuses...

"All's fair in sex and war. And all this claptrap is just about war...and EVERYBODY lies about war."

[johnny7]

FOXNews is the only news outlet giving the O'Neill crowd a chance to tell their version of 'Rambo' Kerry. Every other is just setting them up to face off with dem hacks such as Carville, Begala, Mathews, Olberman, Lanny Davis, Admiral Crowe and every two-bit, male whore from the Clinton years.

The '4th estate' is nothing but a mouthpeice for the DNC... plain and simple. If they don't like a story, the don't cover it and if they are forced to... they smear it!

[G.Mason]

"The question that must be answerd is....Why would John Kerry focus his presidential run on being in Vietnam, lying about being a war hero, lying about being in Cambodia, when these things could be checked out and his lies exposed?"

Because they never have been in all these years, and there was absolutely no reason to suspect otherwise.

Then Rassmann took center stage.

Psst ... Mr. Kerry? ... exit stage left.

[SauronOfMordor]

He was treated at the Cam Ranh Bay US naval support facility where the shrapnel was removed and the wound was treated with a topical Bacitracin antibiotic dressing. He was returned to duty following his treatment.

Treated with Bacitracin and a bandage.

Hell, by those standards my 6-year-old qualifies for a whole chestful of medals