Posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:14 PM PDT by wagglebee
Great perspective!
Cheney will NEVER be president after those statements. He is an extraordiarily gifted administrator/organizer/task manager. He's a tremendous presence when in the camera's eye....he's easy spoken and very simple to understand.
At the same time, it is not UNWISE to ask why we are not grooming someone to replace President Bush in 2008. I would understand anointing someone as 2008's front runner.
After these statements, that will not be Cheney in today's Republican Party.
As a lifelong conservative Republican I am very troubled by Cheney's comments. For lack of a better analogy, he has been seduced by the Darkside. The problmes of the legitimacy of Gay Marriage are profound for this society. Every textbook in school must be changed to reflect gay parents. Gays as guidance counselors in schools, where mixed up teens seek refuge. The Bible becomes hate literature. Pastors who quote Biblical references to homosexuality must be censored. It is one thing to love your daughter, but it is quite another to give approval and support to behavior which is immoral, and in men, tends to be very unhealthy, if not deadly. (ok only 30% of gay men in large cities are getting Aids,(despite Billions in awareness programs) so I am probably exaggerating the link). So Cheney wants her daughter to be held up as a role model...given visibility in the campaign...etc. For many of us, there comes a point where holding your nose to vote for the lesser of two evils is no longer palatable. Cheney is moving the Bush-Cheney ticket closer to that point.
At least give the appearance of listening AND comprehending the English language. He's already said he's not running.
Mr. Cheney is of course way off base with this statement imo......the human heart is deceitfully wicked who can know it......
Pedophilia...the incremental lowering of the age of consent...People ought to be free to enter into ANY relationship they WANT to...
Incest...brothers with father....fathers with sons and daughters...mothers with daughters and sons...
Bestiality...People ought to be free to enter into ANY relationship they want....
BONDAGE...Discipline...humiliation....sexual perversions of any type..because weak people...abused children who pass the age of consent...through deep wounds enter into ANY relationships they want or desire...or are pulled into...by predators...
If this is the conservative republican position......I want NO PART OF IT...or them.....
PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE FREE TO ENTER INTO ANY RELATIONSHIP THEY WANT....THEY WANT -THEY WANT-..
The problem is The "WANTERS" of these people are perverted...bent...evil....sick...demented... 180 degrees off what God the Creator made us for....
And God the Creator and His Son Jesus Christ...made America for HIS PEOPLE and NOT for perverts...the demented...the sick...those who love evil and death and hate God...
To turn the nation over to such "liberalism" is simply inviting the wrath of God....you cannot spit in the face of the Almighty one without dire consequences...not Clinton not Cheney not me not you...in the end...America will pay dearly for her foolishness...
Dick's gravitas just dropped off of the charts.
"Because, as I have already said, it is a non-starter."
Not only is an amendment on Marriage a non-starter, it SHOULD be a non-starter. The fact that any self-proclaimed conservative would WANT to expand federal power and authority over the states is ludicrous.
There are so many issues of genuine import facing this nation. It boggles my mind that so many on the right have nothing better to concern themselves with.
That's a common statement among those not running for President....and also among those who end up running for President.
My point...again....is that it is NOW an impossibility.
"Whoever puts wife or family before me is not worthy of me."
--Jesus
"...my parents had always told us that they would not support that kind of decision. My Brother went ahead and married his girlfriend and my parents did not attend the wedding."
How could a parent turn their back on their child after having said/taught that such an action would be wrong. I have zero respect for your parents - sorry.
Props to Dick Cheney.
In a perfect world you are right.The militant Homosexual rights lobby will not accept the states rights issue. they will push their perverse agenda all the way to the USSC. and it will not end there, every other form of perverted marriage will then have the same rights. they will have to legalize bigamy/polygamy for the bi-sexuals. then theres the incest issue. etc.etc....The Federal Marriage Amendment is the ONLY way to close the loophole.
I don't think that Cheney's position on Gay Marriages is going to sit very well with most conservative Republicans, of whom I am unashamedly one!! Yes, I am behind Bush, and Yes, I am actively campaigning for him, but this just caused me to shutter when I heard him today!!!! The Republican convention is going to either make or break this election for Bush. There are a LOT of Christian conservatives that are not happy campers with " Arnold and McCain" representing us, and now Cheney basically fluffing off gay marriage!!!!
All bills passed by Congress must be signed by the President (or his veto must be overridden). The President has a direct roll in every bill, since his support or opposition will permit or prevent it from becoming law. The position he takes is more than just an opinion; under the Constitution it directly affects the outcome.
But the President has no Constitutional roll with regard to Constitutional Amendments. He can't veto them. His support or opposition is at most a case of cheerleading, nothing more.
Of course for political reasons most Presidents try their best to impose uniformity upon their subordinates on all issues, but the rationale for doing so on a Constitutional Amendment is far weaker than for a bill or a budget or a foreign policy or a war. Congress and the States are perfectly capable of exercising their Constitutional responsibilities irrespective of the advice or consent of the President or Vice-President.
NewsMax is running a poll now on whether or not Cheney should be dumped from the ticket.
http://newsmax.com/cheneypoll/
I second that! Perversion is NOT a civil right! Homosexuality has no redeemable qualities period.
I think freedom means freedom to do good... not to engage in perversion.
I support Bush-Cheney, everyone
knows that. But I shuddered right
along with you. And I don't care
for the Cheneys calling attention
to their daughter's sexual
orientation. I know the media
does it, but ya know what? I do
not wanna be told. Leave me out!
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