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Cheney's Gay Marriage Comments Draw Fire
Yahoo News ^ | 8/24/04 | TODD DVORAK/AP

Posted on 08/24/2004 5:25:14 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: billorites
If he wasn't supportive of his daughter""

How is it "supportive of his daughter" to support gay marriage? He wouldn't be doing his daughter any favors by encouraging her to get "married" to another woman -- and he definitely wouldn't be doing American society any favors by supporting such a perversion of a fundamental institution.

81 posted on 08/25/2004 10:03:16 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: wagglebee

If my daughter was a lesbian, I still would not cave on the issue.


82 posted on 08/25/2004 10:05:12 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: billorites

I think on this issue, he's between a rock and a hard place.


83 posted on 08/25/2004 10:06:34 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: annyokie

It's not a state issue becasue the federal government has pretty much bought up all of the states rights. Drunk driving at .08 is one of many many examples. There about 600 federal perks associated with marriage and one state does not have the soverignty to say no to all of that. This has to come from the federal government.


84 posted on 08/25/2004 10:11:24 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: lucysmom
Jesus clearly says that remarriage after divorce is adultery except in a few, very specific circumstances. Should we outlaw marriage for the divorced?

Nope.Just steer them to the nearest protestant church.It's all "good" with them.

85 posted on 08/25/2004 10:12:53 AM PDT by 1forallandall41
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To: wagglebee

People are overreacting to Vice President Cheney's remarks. Is it inconceivable for a father to show compassion to this daughter, regardless of her sexual preference? Absolutely not. Cheney is not advocating Gay Marriage. He is simply showing compassion to homosexuals, which does not involve having to accept their lifestyles as normal one way or the other. It is my view that most homosexuals are hardwired to be who they are and its high time we accept them for being who they are. I do, but that is not to say I don't find their lifestyle strange and do not think marriage is even applicable to gay couples. What is missed by both pro and con in the "Gay Marriage" debate is that marriage relates to the rearing of children and by virtue of who they are, this excludes gay couples.


86 posted on 08/25/2004 10:15:07 AM PDT by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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To: lucysmom

Maybe we should outlaw any speech that contains the words "clearly states". ;)


87 posted on 08/25/2004 10:23:23 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: If you have to say you're cool (or a war hero), you're not.)
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To: dpwiener

OK. Tell us something we don't already know.


88 posted on 08/25/2004 11:10:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: lucysmom
Jesus clearly says that remarriage after divorce is adultery except in a few, very specific circumstances. Should we outlaw marriage for the divorced?

For god's sake, please don't do that. Marriage is too sacred to restrict a person to only one shot at it.
89 posted on 08/25/2004 11:14:46 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: NCPAC
Forty years ago you may have been correct.

Unfortunately, just like the Supreme Court did with the sodomy laws in Texas, states' marriage laws can be struck down.

Additionally, if one state allows same sex marriage and a same sex couple then moves to another state which doesn't, that state is going to be forced to recognize the same sex marrige.

We need a constitutional amendment defining marriage between a man and a woman.

90 posted on 08/25/2004 11:17:21 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Darlin' Arlen in November.....)
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To: NCPAC
Actually in order for an amendment to be passed, 36 states would have to ratify it.

When you suggest marriage should be left to the states, what you really suggest is that it be left to the judges.

Thus, in this situation, an amendment would be the closest alternative to leaving it to the states.

91 posted on 08/25/2004 12:34:56 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Darlin' Arlen in November.....)
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To: annyokie

See reply #'s 90 and 91.


92 posted on 08/25/2004 12:37:04 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (Vote for anyone but Darlin' Arlen in November.....)
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What is missed by both pro and con in the "Gay Marriage" debate is that marriage relates to the rearing of children and by virtue of who they are, this excludes gay couples.

Does that mean women who's time clock has run out shouldn't be allowed to marry?

93 posted on 08/25/2004 7:54:59 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Absolutely not. Marriage in the legal sense though is a frame work relating to child rearing. Be this through natural means, adoption, etc. It is my belief that there is something fundamental about child rearing that has to involve being raised by both a man and a woman. I don't think Gay couples who wish to adopt children appreciate that there are very subtle biological underpennings in the rearing of children by both sexes that are important to the healthy development of an individual.


94 posted on 08/26/2004 5:43:07 AM PDT by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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It is my belief that there is something fundamental about child rearing that has to involve being raised by both a man and a woman.

I agree, and yet that isn't the case for a very large percent of children in the US, most as the result of divorce.

What I'm wondering, is why chose to take a political stand on gay "marriage" and not remarriage following divorce? The effects of divorce and remarriage are negative for the community, adults involved, and children. The Bible teaches that remarriage (except in a few specific instances) is adultery, and God considered that important enough to include in the Ten Commandments.

95 posted on 08/26/2004 7:39:02 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Well I can't speak to Christianity's traditional viewpoint, as I'm non-religious. But I couldn't agree more that divorce has an extremely negative effect on our society. I think the problem is people are selfish and unwilling to give and take in relationships these days. I also think that people rush into marriage, because the expectation is so high. Raising families and maintaining a marriage are serious matters and not be taking lightly.


96 posted on 08/26/2004 7:51:36 AM PDT by miloklancy (The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they are in office.)
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