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ABC News Radio: Massive voter fraud found in Florida (my title)
ABC News (radio)

Posted on 08/25/2004 6:20:16 AM PDT by moonman

ABC News (radio) announced that over 46,000 New York City residents were registered to vote in both their home district and also in the state of Florida. The anouncement mentioned that two-thirds (2/3) are registered Democrats.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: voterfraud
I take it the other one-third are American Communist Party, Libertarian Party, Independents, ... ? If they were Republicans, you know darn well it would have been mentioned.
1 posted on 08/25/2004 6:20:17 AM PDT by moonman
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To: moonman

They should be prosecuted whomever they are.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 6:23:19 AM PDT by rockprof
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To: moonman
What are the penalties, if any, for voter fraud?
3 posted on 08/25/2004 6:23:51 AM PDT by Clive
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To: moonman

This story has been out for a while, but this is the first time anyone but Fox has been covering it.

My take? Kerry sees he is going to lose Florida, so is greasing the wheels the election is "unfair". Heck, if he can pull out an argument that favors the republicans it works just as well for him when he legally challenges the whole process. I think that is his plan.

I am expecting legal fireworks in Florida in November. Even if it isn't close, they have a PR stake in the "unfair Florida" myth.


4 posted on 08/25/2004 6:27:26 AM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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To: moonman

How on earth did they get permission from the DNC to report this?


5 posted on 08/25/2004 6:28:30 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: Clive

Bust em then... very publically.


6 posted on 08/25/2004 6:28:33 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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To: moonman

Last week the number was 68,000. Next week the news story will be all anew with a grand total of 25,000 New York cross-voters. By November the numnber may be down into the manageable and negligble hundreds. If Jeb Bush doesn't do something about this he needs an enema.


7 posted on 08/25/2004 6:32:21 AM PDT by Podkayne
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To: moonman

IIRC from another thread that 10,000 of these people voted twice in 2000. Wouldn't it follow that Bush probably had a legitimate win margin of 3000+ votes in FL if that were true????


8 posted on 08/25/2004 6:33:33 AM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: newgeezer

It's starting!


9 posted on 08/25/2004 6:33:47 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: Podkayne

Does the number 537 ring a bell?


10 posted on 08/25/2004 6:34:16 AM PDT by SuperSonic (I am a FreeRepublic American)
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To: I still care

Sorry, I tried running a search to see if it was posted previously, didn't see one. The Administrator can ax this if there is a similar thread.

There was mention by some official in the radio news account about a penalty for being registered in two states.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 6:35:13 AM PDT by moonman
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To: moonman

I have heard that Michael Moore is double registerd in Michigan and NYC


12 posted on 08/25/2004 6:35:20 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: moonman

This is probably the tip of the "iceberg" of illegal votes cast in elections. Investigations like this could well end that claim that algore won the "popular" vote.

The Department of Justice needs to make some examples out of these people.

Mr. Ashcroft it is time to "secure" our elections.


13 posted on 08/25/2004 6:36:20 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SuperSonic

bttt


14 posted on 08/25/2004 6:36:32 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: moonman

A number of West Virginia RAT politicians are under inditement for vote-buying as well.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 6:37:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: MamaLucci

I hope that these people are being purged from the voting lists.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 6:37:59 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: moonman

The fact that ABC is reporting this story is certainly news and worthy of its own thread. I had only previously seen this in a Newsmax article.


17 posted on 08/25/2004 6:39:43 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: moonman

I believe that completely. A lot of New Yorkers own homes here in Florida, and register to vote here so that they can evade the NY taxes by claiming they are Florida residents. Why they would also be registered to vote in NY, I can't say, but either way, they are skewing the vote here in Fla.


18 posted on 08/25/2004 6:40:47 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Clive

5 years in jail. A long time for old people!


19 posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:23 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: moonman
But.....But.....But...

Just think of all those poor, terribly confused Democrats who jst can't, for the life of them, figure out thsoe terribly confusing ballots in Florida.

Why, some of them might actually have voted for Pat Buchanan in 2000!

(/sarcasm)

20 posted on 08/25/2004 6:44:09 AM PDT by chs68
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To: chris1
I hope that these people are being purged from the voting lists.

Me too.........the fact that this is being reported on, tells me there has been an ongoing investigation. I would love to see a conspiracy to commit voter fraud by the DNC come to light right before the election.

21 posted on 08/25/2004 6:44:41 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: biblewonk
National voter registration -- made easier with the soon-to-come National ID Card -- can't be too far off.
22 posted on 08/25/2004 6:45:03 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer

Is it all bad?


23 posted on 08/25/2004 6:46:35 AM PDT by biblewonk (neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own)
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To: moonman

I first saw this on a thread from NY Daily News....

Only 12% were Republicans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1196894/posts


24 posted on 08/25/2004 6:51:11 AM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry is The Meringue Candidate.... pretty stories with no actual substance.)
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To: moonman
Not to throw cold water on the fun we're having here......
But I can see how this could easily happen.
Get tired of living in cold NY and you move to Florida.
Do you bother to cancel your voter registration in NY?
No.
Then you're registered to vote in both places.
It doesn't follow that you do vote in both places.
I'm probably still registered in TX though I now live in MO.
The local registrar is supposed to clear the voter rolls of those who don't vote for a certain period of time.....but they don't.
Hell, some democrat is probably voting for me in TX.
25 posted on 08/25/2004 6:52:41 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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To: Politically Correct; IFly4Him

If it is determined that 10,000 voted in both locations as noted in #8 above, not bothering to cancel voter registration appears rather nefarious.


26 posted on 08/25/2004 6:59:41 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Politically Correct

Actually, the registrar (at least in Meriden, CT) is pretty quick on the rolls. I set up a post office box in the next town over and within less that a year I recieved a notice stating that it appeared I had moved and if I didn't sign and return a [post-paid] card, my registration would be canceled. At first I was pretty irritated, but in light of this story, I 'm not to upset with how they handle themselves here at least (I'm in a town with republican leadership though).


27 posted on 08/25/2004 7:00:16 AM PDT by sc2_ct (This is the way the world ends... not with a bang but a whimper)
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To: Quilla
If it is determined that 10,000 voted in both locations as noted in #8 above, not bothering to cancel voter registration appears rather nefarious.

Quite an investigation will be required with a subpoena (sp?) of voter records in both states and then matching ID's in order to prove it.

Frankly such an investigation across all states is long overdue.....in my opinion.
Those voting twice, promptly prosecuted.
I'll stand by my original assertion, most double registration is innocent.
Most voter fraud occurs in other ways.

28 posted on 08/25/2004 7:13:12 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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To: sc2_ct
Actually, the registrar (at least in Meriden, CT) is pretty quick on the rolls. I set up a post office box in the next town over and within less that a year I recieved a notice stating that it appeared I had moved and if I didn't sign and return a [post-paid] card, my registration would be canceled.

That's true in a lot of districts.
It just doesn't happen to be true in some democrat controlled districts.
St. Louis being a prime example.

29 posted on 08/25/2004 7:16:05 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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To: moonman

I have a vague recollection that a certain midwestern college town had a lot of double-registered students. I want to say that it was Madison, WI (home of University of Wisconsin). A lot of college groups putting on these voter registration drives probably don't ask if the student is registered in his home district. This is probably very widespread.


30 posted on 08/25/2004 7:29:32 AM PDT by Tallguy (If Clinton did a good job stopping the Millenium Bomber, I've got 2 Towers in NYC to sell you...)
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To: moonman

According to the report 12% were registered as republicans.
The largest number by far was Democraps, followed by independants at somewhere around 28%. The other "named" parties were pretty miniscule in percentage because they are a very small portion of the voting population anyways.


31 posted on 08/25/2004 7:37:18 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (We have a French knife in our back)
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To: Clive

Would probably fall under fraud in general.


32 posted on 08/25/2004 7:43:29 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: moonman

At first glance, this is an excellent opportunity for Governor Pataki to check those who voted in NY against those who filed tax returns. Voting in NY implies you are a citizen...those who did not file tax returns are breaking the law.


33 posted on 08/25/2004 7:48:18 AM PDT by Meldrim
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To: Tom_Busch

probably leaked


34 posted on 08/25/2004 7:52:42 AM PDT by alrea
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To: moonman
They probably read it here yesterday.

N.Y. Daily News Unearths 'Stunning' Democrat Vote Fraud

35 posted on 08/25/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry and the RATs can't stand facts or truth.)
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To: moonman

I read this report a couple of days ago. It was from NY Daily News. 68% Democrat, 12% Republican and rest were Independents or other. Is anyone here really suprised at this.?


36 posted on 08/25/2004 7:59:07 AM PDT by nightowl
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To: I still care
This story has been out for a while,

It was rumored in the 2000 election.

37 posted on 08/25/2004 8:00:13 AM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: moonman

Don't worry about it - yes, it's been out for a few days (Brit Hume had it on the grapevine a few days ago) but ABC is the first I've heard of an alphabet big media picking it up.

So that in itself is news, for those of us aware of how many important stories stay buried because they might tell against Democrats.


38 posted on 08/25/2004 9:36:22 AM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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To: moonman

When I was a Poll Watcher it was easy to see that some voters had multiple registrations within the same city and county. Some people move a lot and re-register each time at a new address. On election day they vote multiple times in different precincts and collect walking around money each time. They also register at the homes of family and friends. I don't know what the going rate is now, but in 2000 a guy in a union T-shirt walked up to our Poll Watcher in Houston and said, "OK, I voted. Now where'e my forty bucks?"


39 posted on 08/25/2004 10:06:31 AM PDT by darth
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To: zip

ping


40 posted on 08/25/2004 10:50:32 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: moonman

"Re-defeat" Bush, my @$$


41 posted on 08/25/2004 10:52:23 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Since Oct 16, 2002 as BSunday)
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BUMP!


42 posted on 10/08/2004 7:07:11 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (I FINALLY updated my FReeper page! Click on my name and see how you can help our President!)
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To: moonman
As Gomer Pyle would say: surprise, surprise, surprise!!!

NOT. I would only be shocked if the Dems behaved themselves for once in their pathetic lives.

43 posted on 10/08/2004 7:09:11 AM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: moonman

All prosecutors in Floridum are worried about is did Rush Limbaugh shop for Doctors.


44 posted on 10/08/2004 7:11:53 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: moonman
Attach social security number to registration. National registration database. Second registration under same number generates automatic sign & return post card to both locations. No response, both invalidated. Only one response, second is invalidated. Two responses, criminal investigation.

Nonexistent SS number, invalid registration. SS number of dead individual, criminal investigation.

The only question is if can we build enogh prisons or work camps for the violators.

45 posted on 10/08/2004 7:49:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Kerry for President... of FRANCE!)
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To: dougherty

I see ... You raised this post from the dead. LOL


46 posted on 10/08/2004 8:14:47 PM PDT by moonman
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To: I still care
My take? Kerry sees he is going to lose Florida, so is greasing the wheels the election is "unfair".
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I will respectfully disagree. This vote fraud, 2/3 of which benefits the RATS, he does not want to bring to light. He will go after other areas, like felons who should be on the rolls.

47 posted on 10/08/2004 8:19:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (When the debate ended, Cheney gave Edwards a lollipop for being good)
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To: moonman


Please Pass Emergency Anti-Vote Fraud Measure Immediately!

Vote fraud threatens the very core of our republic, and it directly threatens our sovereignty

Please send the following message to your Congressmen and Senators:

Please pass, on an expedited basis, emergency legislation to require voters to show ID at all polling places on Election Day.

Vote fraud threatens the very core of our republic, and it directly threatens our sovereignty. There is a significant amount of evidence emerging that evinces a wide-spread plot to engage in massive voter fraud. Thus, Congress must take immediate action to counter this potential menace.

Congress has the express power to dictate the time, place, and manner in which federal elections are held. The congressional power to make or alter time, place, or manner of federal elections extends to the regulation of voter registration. Federal regulation of the electoral processes, including the regulation of federal voter registration, is also consistent with the Tenth Amendment and permissible; although states do have broad discretion to enact and implement registration procedures, states may not transgress the Constitution. It follows that state voter registration and Election Day statutes that are inconsistent with federal voter registration and Election Day mandates are preempted.

As per the Federal Court in Byrd v. Brice, the government may require a voter to furnish proof of identity at the polling place on Election Day. Such a measure would go a long way in protecting citizens’ federal voting rights from fraudulent practices.

Please set to work immediately on enacting emergency legislation to require a valid ID at the polling places on Election Day.

http://capwiz.com/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=6486121&content_dir=ua_congressorg&mailid=custom


48 posted on 10/09/2004 8:37:29 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior ( ~ WE MUST STOP VOTING FRAUD THIS ELECTION!!! ~)
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