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Max Cleland Turned Away From Bush Ranch

Posted on 08/25/2004 11:36:49 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

Former Georgia Senator Max Cleland, left, and former Green Beret Lt. Jim Rassmann, center, approach a Secret Service Agent, right, on station at the check point to the entrance of President Bush (news - web sites)'s ranch Wednesday Aug. 25, 2004 in Crawford, Texas. Cleland tried to deliver a letter protesting ads challenging John Kerry (news - web sites)'s Vietnam service to President Bush at his Texas ranch Wednesday, but the Secret Service stopped Cleland short of his goal. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cleland; gwb2004; kerry; opportunist; prairiechapel; publicitystunt; usss; waaah
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To: feinswinesuksass

I think he was mocking Kerry. LOL


241 posted on 08/25/2004 1:22:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: feinswinesuksass

(and the Democrats)


242 posted on 08/25/2004 1:23:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Momma Lou

True.


243 posted on 08/25/2004 1:23:52 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: GulliverSwift

Max letting himself be used as part of JFnnnK's circus act.


244 posted on 08/25/2004 1:24:30 PM PDT by meema
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To: Dog Gone
I see that he rolled up his shirt sleeve on one arm extra high to make sure everyone notices his disability.

I'm kinda surprised that he didn't wear shorts. }c:

245 posted on 08/25/2004 1:25:17 PM PDT by Ol' Sox (Isa u Akbar)
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To: FredZarguna
"The Bush team has done the correct calculation"

Agreed. Destor wanted a reson other than what he termed talking points.

246 posted on 08/25/2004 1:25:27 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: GulliverSwift

They're lucky they didn't get arrested for trespassing. Kerry is full of it. Since when is approaching the residence of a sitting President a good idea for anyone to do? Especially after 9/11. The 2 guys ought to be really embarassed or maybe puppets don't have brains.


247 posted on 08/25/2004 1:26:56 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Judge Greer allows violations of Florida Statutes)
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To: Rokke

i never implied he should do anything about the contents of the letter - just diffuse the photo op that will make the news.


248 posted on 08/25/2004 1:28:57 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: GulliverSwift

What a hotdogging dipshit, Cleland has turned into.

He and Kerry are the perfect poster boys, for why the Democrats are the party of the shameless puke.


249 posted on 08/25/2004 1:31:19 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hey Kerry! the Swift Vets and you, know which story is true-you say they lied-we say prove it.)
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To: FredZarguna; cake_crumb
It doesn't matter if he likes them, and it doesn't matter if he respects them. This is public relations, and it is based on a cold calculation: will receiving them, accepting the letter, setting the dogs on 'em, or some other alternative best influence voters who would change their minds in November.

Excellent analysis. You conclusion The Bush team has done the correct calculation I don't agree with but I don't know the politics game so my opinion is worth what it is worth.

I come from a commercial marketing background and to my training - when you sell things go for funny or go for warmth or go for sexy. Politics are not a beer ad so I am not in my element.

Someone once said "Politics ain't bean bag".

250 posted on 08/25/2004 1:32:39 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Err...sorry for misspelling your screen name.


251 posted on 08/25/2004 1:33:12 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Destro
I think Bush fumbled the ball on this one in terms of publicity only. Small blimp though - nothing major. You gave no reason why turing away these Kerry tools helps Bush - only recited talking points.

I don't think he fumbled anything. If he would have received them, Max would have still bad mouthed Bush and the mainstream media would still not have given Bush a fair shake. The media can't really show anything the Rolling Blunders said. Max was ranting like a mad man. And Rassman really didn't say much other than calling Bush a flip flopper. So the only thing they can say is that Bush wouldn't receive them. I think most people out there know you can't just demand to see or deliver something to the President. And Bush sending out a minor leaguer, no offense to Jerry Patterson, to deal with the ex-senator really toped the whole thing off. Kerry and his people came out looking like a bunch of whiny losers.

252 posted on 08/25/2004 1:33:21 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Kerry told him to "bring it on". So he is. And Kerry's whining and sending his friends to defend him as stand ins. Not very Arthurian of him.


253 posted on 08/25/2004 1:36:41 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb

I misspell/typo everything


254 posted on 08/25/2004 1:40:59 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: GulliverSwift

This was a pathetic stunt. They are coming unglued.


255 posted on 08/25/2004 1:41:33 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: handy
...Sincerely,
...
Robert O'Malley, Medal of Honor Recipient
James Fleming, Medal of Honor Recipient

...

O'MALLEY, ROBERT E.

 

Rank and organization: Sergeant (then Cpl.), U.S. Marine Corps, Company 1, 3d Battalion, 3d Marine Regiment, 3d Marine Division (Rein)

 

Place and date: Near An Cu'ong 2, South Vietnam, 18 August 1965

 

Entered service at: New York, New York

 

Born: 3 June 1943, New York, New York

 

Citation:

 

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action against the communist (Viet Cong) forces at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. While leading his squad in the assault against a strongly entrenched enemy force, his unit came under intense small-arms fire. With complete disregard for his personal safety Sgt. O'Malley raced across an open rice paddy to a trench line where the enemy forces were located. Jumping into the trench, he attacked the Viet Cong with his rifle and grenades, and singly killed 8 of the enemy. He then led his squad to the assistance of an adjacent marine unit which was suffering heavy casualties. Continuing to press forward, he reloaded his weapon and fired with telling effect into the enemy emplacement. He personally assisted in the evacuation of several wounded marines, and again regrouping the remnants of his squad, he returned to the point of the heaviest fighting. Ordered to an evacuation point by an officer, Sgt. O'Malley gathered his besieged and badly wounded squad, and boldly led them under fire to a helicopter for withdrawal. Although 3 times wounded in this encounter. and facing imminent death from a fanatic and determined enemy, he steadfastly refused evacuation and continued to cover his squad's boarding of the helicopters while, from an exposed position, he delivered fire against the enemy until his wounded men were evacuated. Only then, with his last mission accomplished, did he permit himself to be removed from the battlefield. By his valor, leadership, and courageous efforts in behalf of his comrades, he served as an inspiration to all who observed him, and reflected the highest credit upon the Marine Corps and the U.S. Naval Service.

FLEMING, JAMES P.

 

Rank and organization: Captain, U.S. Air Force, 20th Special Operations Squadron

 

Place and date: Near Duc Co, Republic of Vietnam, 26 November 1968

 

Entered service at: Pullman, Washington

 

Born: 12 March 1943, Sedalia, Missouri

 

Citation:

 

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Capt. Fleming (then 1st Lt.) distinguished himself as the Aircraft Commander of a UH-1F transport helicopter. Capt. Fleming went to the aid of a 6-man Special Forces long range reconnaissance patrol that was in danger of being overrun by a large, heavily armed hostile force. Despite the knowledge that 1 helicopter had been downed by intense hostile fire, Capt. Fleming descended, and balanced his helicopter on a river bank with the tail boom hanging over open water. The patrol could not penetrate to the landing site and he was forced to withdraw. Dangerously low on fuel, Capt. Fleming repeated his original landing maneuver. Disregarding his own safety, he remained in this exposed position. Hostile fire crashed through his windscreen as the patrol boarded his helicopter. Capt. Fleming made a successful takeoff through a barrage of hostile fire and recovered safely at a forward base. Capt. Fleming's profound concern for his fellow men, and at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Air Force and reflect great credit upon himself and the Armed Forces of his country.

256 posted on 08/25/2004 1:41:43 PM PDT by Gritty ("Every performer tonight ... conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country"-John Kerry)
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To: pepperhead

See # 210 for reply.


257 posted on 08/25/2004 1:41:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I agree that politics is no bean bag. It's more like ping poong. The president is better off not getting into the middle of a personal battle between the Vietnam veterans Kerry victimised and Kerry. That's exactly what Kerrry is trying to get him to do, so they can "debate" their Vietnam service records. Kerry still wants to politicize the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad, and it isn't political. It's personal.

By refusing to acknowledge this, Kerry is grossly miscalculating, IMO. Then again, he's afraid to stand up and answer the charges against him.

The Bush campaign knocked the SBVfT ad right back into Kerry's court, which is where it belongs.

258 posted on 08/25/2004 1:42:31 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Destro
"I misspell/typo everything"

Me too. Story of my life. There's nothing like having to go back through 100,000 lines of code to find a misspelling, like "ins" instead of "int".

259 posted on 08/25/2004 1:44:22 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Great idea!


260 posted on 08/25/2004 1:48:10 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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