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The very model of a modern Muslim “moderate”
View from the Right ^ | August 25, 2004 | Lawrence Auster

Posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:21 PM PDT by Bogolyubski

Is Tariq Ramadan, the Swiss born Muslim professor whose grandfather founded the Egyptian Brotherhood, a “moderate” or a “radical”? According to SwissInfo,

His elder brother, Hani, director of Geneva’s Islamic centre, was fired from his public teaching job after he told a French newspaper that stoning a woman for adultery was acceptable.

Ramadan has so far only called for a moratorium on stoning.

Now this is perfect. Ramadan, in calling for a moratorium on stoning, would appear to some people (including Notre Dame which hired him) as a “moderate” Muslim. But of course he hasn’t renounced stoning as such. How could he? He’s a Muslim. For a Muslim to oppose Shari’ah law in principle is an impossibility. But delaying and temporizing—saying, “We’re not ready to seek Islamic stoning in Europe now”—is perfectly in keeping with Islam. Muslims are told by their religion that when outward circumstances make it hard to wage jihad, it’s ok to have a truce with the dar al-harb, the realm of the non-Muslims. But it’s only a temporary expedient, to be abandoned as soon as possible.

Ramadan’s position on stoning reminds me of what one of the Democratic presidential candidates said to David Frost in an interview during the 1988 primaries. Frost broadcast a series of interviews with each of the candidates. He asked each of them what they thought of the idea of a homosexual being president of the U.S. One of the candidates, I think it was Bruce Babbitt, said it was irrelevant. Babbitt was being a consistent, i.e., radical, liberal. Another candidate, I forget which one, gave Frost the “moderate” answer: “We’re not ready for that yet.” This is like Ramadan saying he supports a “moratorium” on the stoning of women.


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1 posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:22 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Bogolyubski

...sings Krusty as the boat nears the falls...


2 posted on 08/25/2004 6:46:55 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Bogolyubski

If you (or other Freepers) have any more info on this guy I'm very interested. I just live about 40 miles from where he was supposed to teach.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 6:53:46 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

68skylark, I think you'll get what you need here!:

http://watch.windsofchange.net/themes_71.htm

Tariq Ramadan, target for European intelligence services

For several weeks, a Federal judge in the state of Washington has had on his desk reports from European intelligence services implicating Tariq Ramadan in several investigations into the activities of Al Qaeda. According to our sources, these reports were obtained by lawyers acting on behalf of the families of the victims of the attack on the World Trade Center of September 11, 2001. A lawsuit is currently being brought on behalf of 5,600 plaintiffs seeking damages and interest against the persons or groups suspected of having supported Osama bin Laden’s organization. According to Jean-Charles Brisard, former member of the intelligence services and now a private investigator hired by the victims’ families, this international investigation has obtained the political and law-enforcement cooperation of thirty countries. Since the end of 2002, the Geneva Islamic Center, where Tariq Ramadan sits on the board of directors, and of which brother Hani Ramadan is the director, appears among the organizations under investigation.

“No link to the Muslim Brotherhood”

Several of the newer elements of this investigation personally implicate the star preacher to young French Muslims. According to documents provided to American law-enforcement officials, Tariq Ramadan is allegedly the nephew of of Omar Abdel Rahman, the planner of the first attack on the World Trade Center, sentenced to life in prison in the United States. Grand son of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hassan al-Banna, in 1993, Ramadan was allegedly put in charge of the Daawa (preaching) for Europe by that Islamist organization. Ramadan denies the charges: “I am not related to Omar Abdel Rahman and have no organic ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.”

“Two harmless conversations”

Moreover, the name of the Muslim intellectual was cited in several anti-terrorist investigations. As part of an investigation into an Al-Qaeda cell in Spain, he was named as one of the “usual contacts” for Ahmed Brahim, considered to be one of Al-Qaeda’s treasurers indicted in April 2002 by magistrate Garzon. In particular, his name is mentioned during a telephone conversation of 22 April 1999, of which Le Parisien has obtained a copy, between Ahmed Brahim and an official at the Tawhid bookstore in Lyon, which publishes Ramadan’s books. The conversation concerns the acquisition of blank audio cassettes and the invitation extended to young French citizens in Majorca to “work for the path of Allah.” The Swiss intellectual is also named in the trial in France of a group suspected of having planned an attack against the US embassy. Djamel Beghal, considered to be network leader, told the investigating magistrate Jean-Louis Bruguière on October 1, 2001: “In 1994, I followed courses taught by Tarek Ramadan.” The preacher’s response: “I do not know Ahmed Brahim. My name was simply mentioned over the course of two harmless conversations... Moreover, I didn’t begin teaching in Paris until 1997.” Another charge against him: according to the investigations conducted by the lawyers acting on behalf of the families of the World Trade Center victims, the Ramadan family address appears in a register at the Al Taqwa bank, which is on the American State Department’s list of organizations accused of supporting Islamist terrorism. Again, Tariq Ramadan denies the charge: “We have never had relations with that bank.”

“A real stack of evidence”

The last item recorded by the intelligence services: Tariq Ramadan and his brother allegedly organized a 1991 meeting in a Geneva hotel at which both Ayman al-Zawahiri, current al-Qaeda number 2, and and Omar Abdel Rahman were present. What of these “liaisons dangereuses”? “I have never met these people.” So many denials that do not impress Jean-Charles Brisard: “To-day there is a real stack of evidence pointing to Tariq Ramadan’s having had relations with several terrorists,” he says. “He has renounced the Muslim Brotherhood but he shares their heritage. Under the cover of moderation, he is accumulating a radicalism that may encourage Jihad.”



4 posted on 08/26/2004 11:33:09 AM PDT by thierrya
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To: thierrya

Thanks -- looks like good info.


5 posted on 08/26/2004 12:06:44 PM PDT by 68skylark
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