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One Reporter's Opinion - Reel in the Big Fish First(Illegal Immigration)
NEWSMAX.COM ^ | 8/27/2004 | George Putnam

Posted on 08/27/2004 11:38:53 AM PDT by kellynla

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George Putnam, one of the first and longest voices in California against illegal immigration.

Semper Fi, George!

1 posted on 08/27/2004 11:38:53 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Exactly. This might be the only realistic plan that could work.


2 posted on 08/27/2004 11:42:28 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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ping


3 posted on 08/27/2004 11:43:35 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

Sounds good to me.


4 posted on 08/27/2004 11:43:44 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Well it certainly is a start!
But you still have to secure the borders.
And until the borders are secured and the illegals are deported(including the incarcerated), there will be no victory in the "war on drugs", the "war on terrorism" and there definitely will be no "homeland security!"

Semper Fi,
Kelly


5 posted on 08/27/2004 11:46:54 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

Putnam is right on the money as usual. Only one problem, the government does not want to enforce any of the laws regarding this epic invasion. But the same government has no problem putting a gun to our heads demanding the tax payers pay for this coast to coast lawlessness.


6 posted on 08/27/2004 11:48:08 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
The way to put a stop to the invasion is the absolute uncompromising enforcement of the Federal Immigration and Nationality Act - bring action against persons or businesses that employ illegals thus committing a federal felony with all of its consequences. Nothing could be simpler than that.

Does anyone want to take a guess as to why the Federal Government has not done this?

7 posted on 08/27/2004 11:50:07 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: kellynla

George has the correct response to that old straw horse "just how do you propose to round up & deport 15 million people?"


8 posted on 08/27/2004 11:51:18 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Joe Hadenuf

I heard Brit Hume hit Karl Rove over the head about illegal immigration...
I think if we continue to hold W and his administrations' collective feet to the fire maybe they will wake up and smell the coffee...eventually...LOL


9 posted on 08/27/2004 11:53:31 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

I truly believe there is a plan to erase our borders with Mexico. We get cheap labor, Mexico doesn't have to deal with its welfare problem. Every mail survey I get conveniently fails to list illegal immigration as a choice in the problems America faces.

The government is doing exactly what it wants, regardless of which political party is in power.


10 posted on 08/27/2004 11:56:12 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

It would incriminate all the wrong people? I don't know.


11 posted on 08/27/2004 11:59:20 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: skeeter
George has the correct response to that old straw horse "just how do you propose to round up & deport 15 million people?"
ten thousand a day for the next four years should just about do it! LOL
But you have to close the barn door first!
If ya don't hire 'em they won't come and those already here will leave or get legal.
But one thing's for sure, the present inaction is not working!!!
12 posted on 08/27/2004 12:03:39 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla

What a novel idea . . . enforcing immigration law!


13 posted on 08/27/2004 12:04:58 PM PDT by KiloLima
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Does anyone want to take a guess as to why the Federal Government has not done this?
Because Americans have not demanded it!...yet
And that's why it is left up to people like us to wake up the sleeping masses to the cost of illegal immigration in not only dollars but homeland security and quality of life for all Americans !
14 posted on 08/27/2004 12:07:37 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla
But one thing's for sure, the present inaction is not working!

If only 'inaction' were the problem. What we have now from government is active encouragement.

15 posted on 08/27/2004 12:08:33 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: kellynla

You can listen live right now at ---http://www.warpradio.com/popTuner.asp?id=13800


16 posted on 08/27/2004 12:11:26 PM PDT by Digger
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Every mail survey I get conveniently fails to list illegal immigration as a choice in the problems America faces

If these surveys are also asking for donations (which they are), I send them back at their expense, and write with marker "no donations to any politician or party who favors open borders and illegal immigration - not a cent!"

17 posted on 08/27/2004 12:11:48 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN HEAVEN)
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And for those of you who have not seen the report yet from The Center for Immigration Studies, here is the link:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalrelease.html


18 posted on 08/27/2004 12:12:08 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I think we need to popularize the position that illegal immigration is tolerated by the US in order to provide the safety valve which enables the Mexican elite families to stay in power, and maintain the somewhat stable status quo.

At least that what a lot of these people tell me. Many feel that as long as these families maintain their stranglehold on Mexico with the complicity of our government, nothing will change.


19 posted on 08/27/2004 12:13:23 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Kerry for Chief of Self Aggrandizement)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Does anyone want to take a guess as to why the Federal Government has not done this?

They can't. The only power they have is the one enumerated in the Constitution to repel invasion and secure the borders.

Illegals are still people in the common or natural-law sense of the word. Without the creation of the legal entity via a birth certificate from one of the states, government has no jurisdiction and therefore no control until issuance of a visa, green card, or other form of official FEDERAL documentation.

They still persons according to law because they're illegals.

Before anyone yells about tinfoil, answer this-

'States' are defined in the codes as a 'political subdivisions'. A political subdivision is an artificial thing.

So how can a real, live human being be born inside something artificial?

20 posted on 08/27/2004 12:36:35 PM PDT by MamaTexan (TAG - You're it! :)
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