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To: Timeout
Is there any kind of ping list on the subject of Kerry's military records/Swift vets/war stories? If so, I'd like to get on it.

None that I know of. Cincinnatus Wife starts many of the threads. You'll find a farily consistent set of core posters, but I'm reluctant to provide a list because I'm sure to leave out a valuable contributor.

521 posted on 08/28/2004 11:39:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
Is there any kind of ping list on the subject of Kerry's military records/Swift vets/war stories? If so, I'd like to get on it.

Look for posts from Cincinnatus Wife, chieftain, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (personal favorite for SBV info)
529 posted on 08/28/2004 11:42:44 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Cboldt
I haven't been able to find a thread on the article on today's front page, Washington Post: "After Decades, Renewed Debate on Old Conflict"

I almost jumped out of my chair when I saw this:

The FBI kept careful tabs on the protesters through a network of informers, who tracked Kerry's movements. The FBI records help to disprove a long-standing claim by Kerry that he resigned from the VVAW leadership in the summer of 1971, before the organization began to flirt with proposals for radical civil disobedience and even violence.

The FBI records show that Kerry was present for a particularly contentious meeting in Kansas City, Mo., in November 1971, at which plans were discussed for the assassination or kidnapping of government officials or the takeover of the Statue of Liberty. The proposal was overwhelmingly voted down, and the files record that Kerry wanted VVAW "to stay strictly non-violent." According to the FBI files, he resigned from the organization in Kansas City after an angry showdown with radicals led by a firebrand named Al Hubbard.

Told about the FBI records earlier this year, Kerry said through a spokesman that he now accepted he must have been in Kansas City for the November meeting while continuing to insist that he had "no personal recollection" of the contentious debate. Many people associated with VVAW find this difficult to believe.

"There was no way he would have forgotten about being in Kansas City," said Nicosia, who is generally sympathetic to Kerry.

Former VVAW Kansas state coordinator John Musgrave, who served with the Marines in Vietnam, expressed extreme doubt about Kerry's stated recollection. "He had a tremendous confrontation with Hubbard at that meeting. How can he claim not to have any memory of it?"

"These meetings were chaotic, confused and very noisy," countered John Hurley, director of the Veterans for Kerry movement [ever the boot licker], which claims a membership of 300,000 [Bullsh##t!]. According to Hurley, it was easy to confuse one meeting with another as Kerry was "flying all over the country from one college campus to another."

Never thought I'd live to see this reported in the WaPo!
535 posted on 08/28/2004 11:48:15 AM PDT by Timeout (“If John Kerry loses, it will be the parade we never had.”--Anonymous Vietnam Vet)
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