Who's to blame for nation's Vietnam wounds? Kerry

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 8/29/04 | Mark Steyn

[grey_whiskers]

BTW, isn't it true that when Cornwallis surrendered
at Yorktown, the band played
"The World Turned Upside Down" ?

Perspiring minds who weren't there want to know.

[tjg]

A generous person could make some excuses or qualifiers for Fonda. A spoiled rich kid, completely immersed in the fantasy world of Hollywood culture her whole life. Rich and famous in her own right, her background and upbringing makes rational though impossible for her.

Kerry however was a DECORATED NAVAL OFFICER. He knew better. HE WAS THERE. There is no possible qualification or excuse for what he did.

Kerry and Fonda are not in the same league at all.

[Valin]

"If ponies rode men and grass ate the cows"
Just What Tune was in the Air when
The World Turned Upside Down?
by Dennis Montgomery

Name the song the British bands played when General Charles Cornwallis surrendered to General George Washington at Yorktown in 1781. Yes, it's a trick question, and, tick . . . tick . . . tick . . . time's up. If you said "The World Turned Upside Down," chances are good you are wrong. The correct response is: No one knows for sure.

(snip)
For more than you ever whated to know about this
http://www.americanrevolution.org/upside.html

[grey_whiskers]

Interesting. . .

Don't remember where, but the lines I remember
from 'The World Turned Upside Down' included

If horses rode men
and the other way around
then all the World
Would be Turned Upside Down. . .

Thanks for the response,
I haven't had time to follow your link yet.

Cheers!

[jocon307]

"...the man is amazing and I am truly jealous of his writing ability!"

HA! I'll admit it, I am too. Mark Steyn and Michael Kelly (RIP) are two of the few that make me say: I wish I could write like that.

When the collected works of Mary Steyn is published how many volumes will it be?

[jocon307]

LOL, thanks for posting those lyrics. Of course a lot of them are beyond my comprehension, but I think I get the general idea. It's quite an amusing tidbit. Steyn totally rules.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[Cuttnhorse]

Great article, I am continually amazed at the writing ability of Mark Steyn.

[Political Junkie Too]

They oppose the war but ''of course'' they support our troops. Kerry's campaign is a walking illustration of the deficiencies of that straddle: When you divorce the heroism of soldiering from the justice of the cause, what's left but a hollow braggart?

-PJ

[Caoilfhionn]

What amazes me is--with the playing off that song, they're playing up his Irish heritage as if it's real and legitimate. John Kerry's a Czech Jew. Because, like other Jews in the late 1800's, his grandfather (Fritz Kohn) suffered greatly from the anti-Semitism that prevailed in Europe at the time he abandoned his Jewish heritage and converted to Roman Catholicism.

Then, in 1897, his grandfather, Fritz, decided to shed the Jewish-sounding name of Kohn. He chose a new name by dropping a pencil on a map. The pencil landed on Ireland's County Kerry. In 1901, Fritz's name was then changed officially from Fritz Kohn to Frederick Kerry.

Looks like flip flopping runs in the family, lol.....

[lainde]

Bump and thanks!

[Oldeconomybuyer]

bump

[blackie]

"Kerry Lied and Good Men Died!"

"Kerry Fled and Good Men Bled!"

[AndyJackson]

Kerry didn't just call for U.S. withdrawal, he impugned the honor of every man he served with.

Worse, in the latest round, he and his political band of brothers have offended and impugned the honor of every person who ever served in the U.S. military.

[elbucko]

Notice that while the anti-war movement festered while Democrats were president, it exploded when Nixon won the presidency.

You're right. It would have been better for the troops in Vietnam, for LBJ, as bad as he was, to have had a second term. There would have been less anti-war demonstrations and LBJ would have shown some guts to the enemy by sticking it out, rather than tucking his tail under his leg and slithering back to Texas.

But that's, as you note, standard for the Democrats, as Kerry did the "Cut and Run Boogie" from "Nam", after only four months.

Notice how nobody in the present-day anti-war movement raised a single peep about Clinton's exploits in Yugoslavia, in a war that had absolutely zero national interest to the U.S., or posed any threat whatsoever to U.S. security.

The anti-war movement was conspicuous by its absence. It always is when the Democrats are in the White House. The anti-war movement is part of the Democratic Party.

[NRA1995]

Most wounds don't heal when you keep picking at them; they get infected.

[RipSawyer]

"Vietnam all started with liars and lies of the Democrats. Why should the Dems be any different now."



"My fellow Americans, I come to you tonight with a heavy heart to promise you that I will not send American boys to Asia to do what Asian boys should be doing for themselves." That is not exactly right but somewhere close.

[RipSawyer]

"The part that amazes me, is that we allow the dems to continually lay the vietnam war at nixons feet."


Why not, they were giving Slick Willy credit for the 1992 recovery thirty days after G. H. W. Bush conceded.

[elbucko]

....I will not send American boys to Asia to do what Asian boys should be doing for themselves."

That's close enough. I was a "Young Republican for Goldwater" in 1964 and every speech of Lyndon Johnson is "seared, seared I tell you", into my brain.

What may be of interest, is that those of us who were for Goldwater, felt at the time that Lyndon Johnson and the Democrats were lying and liars, just as Kerry and the Democrats are considered now. Also, Goldwater was as smeared as Bush is now. This 2004 election is a lot like 1964.