Who is Al Hubbard (HOT!)

National Review Online ^ | June 1, 1971 | William Overend

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.

Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."

http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm


"...At the time, Kerry was serving as the point man for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The president of the organization was Al Hubbard, who claimed to be an Air Force captain who was severely injured during his service in Vietnam.

It turned out Hubbard was a sergeant who never served in Vietnam.

He did, however, as Kerry knew, serve the communist cause with great enthusiasm and distinction – making propaganda trips to Hanoi paid for by the Communist Party USA. "

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39982

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!!!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Thanks for the BTT!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Washington Post 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published
Kerry's full military records on their Web site
(with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year),
they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records.
A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information.
A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan,
said he was not authorized to release the full file,
which consists of at least a hundred pages. "

TRANSCRIPT: 8/26/04
Steve Gardner, Foregunner, PCF44:
http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

"I spent more time on John Kerry's boat than any other crewmember.

John Kerry hasn't been honest - he has been deceitful.

John Kerry claims that he spent Christmas, in 1968, in Cambodia.

And that is catagorically a lie. Not in December. Not in January.

We were never in Cambodia on a secret mission. Ever."

Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004

NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.


Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam.
The only Vietnamese he ever met was
when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.

John Kerry's explanation:
"He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War
PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE

Jane Fonda tells the student audience at the Michigan State University in 1969;
"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope,
you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communist."

Joe Moore, Can Tho Airfield 550th Signal Company

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

Send this url for the Steve Gardner video

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/gardner2.mpg

Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/

Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf

[blackie]

Hang 'em High ~ Bump!

[vetvetdoug]

I am not defending Hubbard but the years in the USAF from 1955 to about 1965 were thin times. Rank was very difficult to come by and they were stingy with giving promotions. My father made M/Sgt. from 1947-53 and got out of the USAF for 18 months. He rejoined the USAF and was only allowed to retain his S/Sgt. rank. From 1955 to 1965 he stayed a S/Sgt. From 1965 to 1976 he made it back to SM/Sgt. I joined the USAF in 1974 and made it to E-6 by 1983.

Hubbard was a pimp.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[BunnySlippers]

Where is Al Hubbard now?

[Cuttnhorse]

Also, 14 years in the Air-Force and he only reached E-5? The man wasn't just a liar but a total incompetent.

That was my first thought! LOL! Geez, I made E5, (Quartermaster 2nd class) in two years. Lots of guys were rapidly promoted during Vietnam.

Cheers,
Swift Boats 10, 45, 50 (combinations of these numbers have NOT won me the lottery...yet)
1965-1966

[christie]

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Visit the John F. Kerry Timeline . . .
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[EternalVigilance]

Al Hubbard was obviously John Kerry's mentor.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Useful info here!

By THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB Special to the Sun

Publication:The New York Sun; Date:Mar 22, 2004; Section:Front page; Page:1

[arasina]

From The Washington Times "Inside Politics" 3/24/04:

Kerry 'misspeaks'

"CBS and ABC on Monday night ran full stories on how the FBI trailed antiwar activist John Kerry in the early 1970s, but only ABC's Dan Harris pointed out what CBS's Byron Pitts missed, how the FBI 'documents do show that some of Kerry's recent statements about his antiwar activism are inaccurate,' " the Media Research Center reports.

"Both March 22 stories were prompted by an article in that day's Los Angeles Times about the FBI documents obtained a few years ago by a book author," Brent Baker writes at www.mediaresearch.org.

"Harris explained on 'World News Tonight': 'While the FBI ultimately concluded that Kerry had no link to any violent activity, these documents do show that some of Kerry's recent statements about his antiwar activism are inaccurate. Two weeks ago, Kerry was asked about Al Hubbard, an activist with whom he had appeared on national TV in April 1971. Shortly after that appearance, Hubbard was exposed for having lied about his service record.'

"Kerry in his Senate hallway press conference a couple of weeks ago: 'I haven't talked to Al Hubbard since that week.'

"Harris: 'But the documents show that Kerry was with Hubbard at many subsequent meetings. Also, Kerry has repeatedly denied being at a November 1971 meeting where this man [photo of man with long hair], Scott Camil , proposed a plan to assassinate members of Congress who supported the war. That plan was quickly voted down. The FBI documents show Kerry was, in fact, at that meeting. A Kerry spokesman said today that these events happened 30 years ago and the senator simply misspoke.' "

[christie]

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Kerry was against the war before he even signed up for the Naval Reserves (to avoid the draft). His father (Richard Kerry) was a leftie and a much bigger influence. All this predates his association with Hubbard by years. More info on my John F. Kerry Timeline.

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[MeekOneGOP]

[EternalVigilance]

I understand.

My point was that Kerry obviously emulated Hubbard's skills at creating fiction.

[christie]

No, Kerry did a good job at creating fiction when he wrote the "after action reports." And he was a good actor, he even filmed reenactments of his exploits. LOL!

[EternalVigilance]

If only he would limit himself to what he is good at:

Writing fiction! ;-)

[submarinerswife]

bump

[christie]

He's also a real cute bunny!!!!