[longtermmemmory]

So the NYT is advocating Disenfranchising flyover country.

Votes must be starting to make more of a difference than newspapers and the NYT is threatened.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Hey now this is New York State's problem. If they want to stop disenfranchishing their Republican minority then they can invent some scheme to divide their electoral votes up. I encourage California to do the same. *muhahahaha*

[Dec31,1999]

The Electoral College makes Republicans in New York, and Democrats in Utah, superfluous.

That's OK. The EC is a built in system to prevent the cities from dominating rural and suburban areas by shear numbers. It's a good thing.

[Paleo Conservative]

Here's a link to an excellent website I came across in befor the 2000 election. I really started to understand its profundity during the Florida recounts.

Resources, References &
Stories about the much
maligned U.S. Electoral College

[conservative in nyc]

The electoral college has worked well for over 200 years. Obviously, it's time to change it because the partisans on 43rd Street say it is.

I'll side with the Founding Fathers instead of the Whining Liberals.

[Michael81Dus]

The US should not abolish the Electoral College. There´s no need to, after all, it´s a Republic. BUT, the number of delegates from each state should be proportional to the number of citizens (more than it is today)!

[TheLion]

The Democrats (represented very strongly by the NY Times) want to be able to win elections just by having the high population areas, which are mostly democrat, win the election for them.

There is no other purpose in their continued arguments about the Electoral College.

Since 2/3 of the states would have to radify it after 2/3 of the senate.....it isn't going to happen. (someone correct me if these numbers are wrong).

[goldstategop]

"Making Every Vote Count," huh? The New York Times wants to take away the advantage enjoyed by voters in flyover country and give it to the vote-rich areas on the coasts, which are overwhelmingly liberal. People see right through the talk of abolishing the Electoral College and the purpose is to give the Left a permanent political advantage in sheer numbers. Just ask conservatives in Canada how it feels to be outvoted by 70% of the electorate in election after election. Sorry, the NYT's perennial hobby horse won't hunt.

[Remember_Salamis]

"Many people realized then for the first time that we have a system in which the president is chosen not by the voters themselves, but by 538 electors."

-- That's because they don't teach the Constitution in schools anymore.

[Remember_Salamis]

I guess the NYT would rather have presidential candidates offer political handouts in America's largest cities and tell everyone in flyover country to go to hell.

[dennisw]

And what if abolishing the electoral college worked out marginally better for the Republicans? You wouldn't hear a peep from the partisan press and the NY Times.

[L.N. Smithee]

The main problem with the Electoral College is that it builds into every election the possibility, which has been a reality three times since the Civil War, that the president will be a candidate who lost the popular vote. This shocks people in other nations who have been taught to look upon the United States as the world's oldest democracy.

I have two words for "people in other nations."

The final word is "'em."

Quit changing the way the United States does business because of what "they" think! We will execute murderers if we want. We will not cripple our industries unilaterally to allow other nations to catch up with us in the name of preventing "global warming." We will prevent homosexuals from marrying if it offends our sensibilities. And all of you outsiders who don't like it are free to stay where you are and not to crawl, skip, or swim across our borders to live here!

[Political Junkie Too]

Isn't this kind of like a baseball team that loses the World Series on a run-scoring walk demanding that walks be banned from the game from now on?

-PJ

[freeangel]

Save for later read.

[sargon]

Abolish the Electoral College

Spoken like a true socialist Democrat...

[snopercod]

See my tagline.

[capitan_refugio]

One very positive aspect of the use of the Electoral College, as compared to the direct, popular election fo the President, is that it "compartmentalizes" vote fraud.

In a direct election, every vote counts the same as every other vote for President. Sounds good on paper, but that also means every fraudulent votes counts as much as every legal vote.

In the Electoral College, because the Electors of the President on selected on a state-by-state basis, if one state has a corrupt election system, the votes in the other states are not affected.

Case in point: California has over 10 million voters. In the 2000 election is has been estimated that more fraudulent votes were cast in California than all of the the votes in several individual states. California does not require any identification or citizneship papers to register to vote - only the registrant's affidavit that they meet the requirments. In fact, an illegal alien case obtain a driver's license and receive a voter registration in the mail. That illegal alien could mail in the registraion and an application for a permanent absentee ballot, cast a vote, and never be confronted by a living human being!

Gore's popular nationwide vote margin in the 2000 election was largely provided by his margin in California.

If you want your vote to be cancelled out by one of possibly over 1 million fraudulent voters in California, then work hard to get rid of the Electoral College.

[tame]

Our Republic is in serious trouble if the electoral college gets thrown out.

[George W. Bush]

The electoral college is one of the last vestiges of the old republic. You can see why Hillary and the NYT want to get rid of it. Think Rome, bread and circuses.

[Cincinna]

I imagine the logical next step is Hillary and the NY Slimes calling to abolish the entire U.S. Constition.