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Kerry appearance at American Legion - live thread
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Posted on 09/01/2004 4:46:34 AM PDT by rudy45

Sorry for starting this thread so early. Is this like calling "shotgun" three days before the trip starts LOL?

I was trying to find out the time that the Senator's speech will occur. I found nothing at the Legion website (www.legion.org), nor at the Kerry site, nor at CSPAN. When will the speech be given?

Anyway, here is a thread for people to post their comments.


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To: KevinDavis

Noted! The winner gets a $3 dollar bill.


141 posted on 09/01/2004 7:15:58 AM PDT by Nataku X (John sez: NO BLOOD FOR PURPLE HEARTS!)
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To: rudy45
*URGENT* NASHVILLE FREEPER HELP NEEDED TO DELIVER OR FAX THIS TO THE AMERICAN LEGION CONVENTION MEDIA ROOM AT THE OPRYLAND HOTEL!

The media room is usually somewhere near the main convention hall, and we either need the fax number for the media room, or in-person delivery to the media room of the following!!!! (copied and pasted from an earlier thread this week)

As John Kerry gets ready to speak to the American Legion on Sept. 1, during the GOP Convention, it is worth recalling some of his earlier comments on that esteemed organization: We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans' Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the "greater glory of the United States." We will not accept the rhetoric. We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars-in fact, we will find it hard to join anything at all and when we do, we will demand relevancy such as other organizations have recently been unable to provide. We will not take solace from the creation of monuments or the naming of parks after a select few of the thousands of dead Americans and Vietnamese. We will not uphold traditions which decorously memorialize that which was base and grim. It is from these things the New Soldier is asking America to turn. We are asking America to turn from false glory, hollow victory, fabricated foreign threats, fear which threatens us as a nation, shallow pride which feeds off fear, and mostly from the promises which have proven so deceiving these past ten years. Those comments came in the epilogue to "The New Soldier," the book put out by Vietnam Veterans against the War. The book's cover features a group of not-particularly sober-looking antiwar protesters (vets, presumably) flying the American flag upside down, with the hygene associated with the protesters in New York City right now. When the speech was announced August 18, Kerry's communications director, Stephanie Cutter, told reporters that Kerry is a member of the American Legion.

142 posted on 09/01/2004 7:19:49 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana ("Kerry-Edwards" or "Bury Vets' Words"? or "Verry Leftwards"?)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Placeholder bump. :) Back soon...


143 posted on 09/01/2004 7:22:24 AM PDT by TheBigB (The donger need FOOD!)
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To: Nakatu X

Just tuned in c-span and they're replaying GWB at the Am. Leg. from yesterday.


144 posted on 09/01/2004 7:22:39 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Lucky for us, Tony Blair is the Zell Miller of the U.K.)
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To: rudy45

ping


145 posted on 09/01/2004 7:23:47 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Cboldt
Well, I thought the VFW events were appropriate. Most of the members listened politely, two stood back-to Kerry. That sits okay with me. But IMO, it would reflect badly on the American Legion if it performed a mass shunning.

I would like to see about 20-25% stand back-to Kerry. I think the VFW event and particularly the two who stood back-to Kerry is what set Kerry off about the swift boat vets ads. I can just see Kerry, "How dare they? Don't they know who I am!"

146 posted on 09/01/2004 7:24:54 AM PDT by JoeBob255
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To: old and tired

LOL, me also, can't wait to see his long lying face and hear his lies, hey Kerry, you are loosing, NEENER, NEENER, NEENER!!!!!!


147 posted on 09/01/2004 7:26:31 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (We have to stop Kerry for our grandkids sake!!!!!!!! GO W)
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To: OldFriend
Just this morning I tried IMUS in desperation and there was former President Bush with a hilarious interview and IMUS admitting he's leaning towards Dubya!!

The whole Imus endorsement of Kerry was rather forced from the start. Then Kerry pissed him off by not stopping his campaign train while it was slowly moving through his ranch for kids with cancer. Imus had the urchins out in the dark to meet Kerry and got stiffed.

148 posted on 09/01/2004 7:31:52 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: oswald
Kerry was/is a "flawed candidate," but that misses the point. The Dems CANNOT put out any candidate who isn't terribly "flawed." Howlin' Howard Dean? Dennis the Menace Kucinich? "Call Me" Al Sharpton? Johnny "Two Americas" Edwards? In terms of positions/issues, NO SENSIBLE DEMOCRAT can win.

Clinton concealed his liberalism---which was easy for him to do, because as a child of an alkie, he had learned how to change personalities at the drop of a hat. Moreover, Clinton, as arrogant as he was to common people, was not as arrogant as Kerry: Clinton would actually TAKE ADVICE from people like Robert Rubin, Dickie Morris, and Stan Greenberg.

So don't fall into the trap of thinking that a "better candidate" could have won for the Dems. They WILL NOT NOMINATE a Zell Miller-type. It's not who they are anymore.

149 posted on 09/01/2004 7:33:02 AM PDT by LS
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To: Cboldt
Well, I thought the VFW events were appropriate. Most of the members listened politely, two stood back-to Kerry.

My understanding was that there were a few hundred who turned their backs on him. The media focused on the picture of the two to minimize the story.

150 posted on 09/01/2004 7:33:43 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Bob

Okay. Maybe I was getting a little carried away.......


151 posted on 09/01/2004 7:34:32 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the Rapture, the Bush White House will be unmanned.)
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To: Nakatu X

The Over/Under has been set at 42 minutes. I'll take the Over.


152 posted on 09/01/2004 7:35:15 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone starts another conversation.......)
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To: TC Rider
My concern was IMUS wife's connection to the Heinz money.

I suspect they thought they could protect their family from terror so to hell with the rest of us out here with targets on us.

I just have a hard time respecting his promoting kerry for any reason.

153 posted on 09/01/2004 7:35:35 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
John Kerry - the Eric Cartman of combat. "Sc**w you guys, I'm going home."

I think you've nailed it. I could also see Eric gaming the system to collect medals.

154 posted on 09/01/2004 7:35:38 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: rudy45

bump


155 posted on 09/01/2004 7:36:15 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: maggiefluffs

Geez, that smile looks even more 'Thurston-y' than usual.


156 posted on 09/01/2004 7:36:25 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Now EX-Democrat!)
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To: TC Rider
My understanding was that there were a few hundred who turned their backs on him. The media focused on the picture of the two to minimize the story.

Wow. That sheds a different light, both on the amount of appropriately disrespectful behavior, as well as on the media's efforts to hide the truth. Do you have a citation, or photos, or other evidence (people who were there) that a hundred or more VFW members turned back-to while Kerry was speaking?

157 posted on 09/01/2004 7:36:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Since that school takeover in Russia, my concerns for similar tactics here at home have been exacerbated.

School is now in session in many areas, and we have a little over two months to go before the Elections. Does that convergence of factors concern anyone else just a little?

Given what a couple of whacked out juvenile delinquents did to Columbine, I don't even want to imagine what a team of trained AlQuida Terrorists could - and would - do with a large school.

Of course in obediance to the ironclad rule of PC, American schools remain officially disarmed "killing zones".
If Kliebold and company didn't mind violating some 18 anti-gun laws at Columbine, I don't suppose that suicidal islammonazis will lose much sleep over such "laws" either, do you?

Only they will be much better armed, equipped, and trained.

Will we be seeing any significant security around our schools this year, or any armed community "civil defense" activation to protect our kids?

Probably not; wouldn't be PC, you know.

I'm glad our Daughter is out of school now; God help and protect our kids who are currently compelled to attend these PC Government indoctrination centers!


158 posted on 09/01/2004 7:37:05 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: painter
I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to apologize for his actions after he got back from Vietnam.

I think he's going to go for the non-apology apology. "I'm sorry if you unsophisticated hicks don't have enough of a grasp on nuance to understand what I said."

159 posted on 09/01/2004 7:37:28 AM PDT by alnick (Get thee to www.swiftvets.com and contribute to the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.)
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To: texasflower
Okay. Maybe I was getting a little carried away.......

Well, maybe so, but it was a beautiful mental image nonetheless. :=)

160 posted on 09/01/2004 7:37:48 AM PDT by Bob
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