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Film of Kerry War Crimes?
FR ^ | 9/1/04 | Me

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:16:09 PM PDT by swilhelm73

Listening to the Jay Severin Show.

Hannity is on, and just said that they have found film of Kerry burning down huts in Vietnam. They haven't got permission from the Cavett show yet, but he sounded as if they believed they would have it by next week for the Hannity and Colmes show.


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KEYWORDS: kerry; seanhannity; warcriminal
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To: All; FL_engineer
We would quickly get Terry McAullife's new choice.

Speaking of McAullife....did anyone hear him on Medved's show today? He was commenting on how "negative" the first two days of the convention have been and that McCain and Gulliani had made vicious attacks on Kerry. When Medved asked him to name just one, he couldn’t. Medved rocks!

161 posted on 09/01/2004 5:41:44 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Samwise
I'm afraid you're behind the times. It is no longer the validity of the charge or the seriousness of the charge. It is now the timing of the charge.

No. When the accusations are against republicans, the seriousness of the charge is still the standard, without a shred of evidence to support the charge. The timing of the charge is the defense democrats use with 100% effectiveness in the face of a MOUNTAIN of evidence.

162 posted on 09/01/2004 5:45:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: All

The film exists- many have seen it- as guests of Kerry in his home.
Kerry shot the video and showed it to Charles Sennott of the Boston Globe, who reported on it in 1996.
Sennott spent 5 hours watching Kerry's home movies.

Jim Robinson posted the original article last Friday night.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1201491/posts
I hope the whole article is still available ( I did print it out on Friday night )because it's a must read.

Kerry described how he multitasked-When asked how he filmed in the heat of battle, Kerry said :
" I'd steer or direct or fire my gun and hold onto it, whenever I could."
"Sometimes, the other guys would pick it up."

Kerry " explained how he returned later with a Super 8 mm hand held movie camera to record highlights of the mission."
" That's me right there, one of my crew was filming this."

" Watching the film and listening to Kerry's narration is to take a strange journey into the war."

"This was America's effort to win the war right here,"
he says as the film showed soldiers dousing gasoline on huts in a small village before setting them on fire."

" There was always a kind of sick, sweet smell of burning wood."

Page 62 of " Unfit For Command "
quotes George Bates an officer in Coastal Divison 11 describing how Kerry ordered the torching of a small hamlet that was obviously nothing more than a peaceful fishing village.

Kerry ordered the farm animals slaughtered and then Kerry ran around with his Zippo,
" burning up the entire hamlet."
Bates said the village was apolitical, no symbols or flags in evidence.
Bates said that " existing policies, decency and good sense required the boats to simply move on."
Bates believes that Kerry acted " in an almost criminal manner."

Another scene from Kerry's home movie :
" There is Kerry in cutoff shorts working on his suntan next to a Viet Cong prisoner bound and blindfolded."

Didn't Kerry just call for Rumsfeld to resign because of Abu Grhaib ??


163 posted on 09/01/2004 5:46:56 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( When the going gets tough-John Kerry gets going-far away)
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To: Jinjelsnaps
Bush was sent to kill babies and doggies and kitties!

and hamsters too-ou

164 posted on 09/01/2004 5:48:45 PM PDT by rubofthebrush (Clintoon went to Russia Kerry went to Paris)
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To: Fishtalk
If it's a reenactment I guess the defense will probably be that Kerry was simply trying to visually demonstrate some of the atrocities he saw in Vietnam.

No. Kerry performed reenactments of events and "battles" he personally was involved in. So, as I said above, and this bears repeating, if this film exists and it is a reencactment that means that John Kerry burned down a village, didn't get it on tape, then found ANOTHER village to burn down to film!

165 posted on 09/01/2004 5:50:53 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Mo1

The question I have is there anything in the PBS documentary that connects Kerry to any of the village burnings?


166 posted on 09/01/2004 5:51:56 PM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, XO USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: Shermy
I wonder if Cavett handed them over?
167 posted on 09/01/2004 5:54:40 PM PDT by rubofthebrush (Clintoon went to Russia Kerry went to Paris)
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To: Steven W.
Did he do it because he heard that others were doing it?
Did he film it to have a record for his later baseless charges?
Was he just a loose cannon?
Was he doped out?

Whatever the truth, he was certainly a strange combination of theatrics and incompetence.

168 posted on 09/01/2004 5:59:31 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Partisan Hack
I can't wait to see the film. Kerry has put Dem voters in such an amazing position though.

They nominated a guy who ADMITTED he committed war crimes. Now maybe there is video to prove it.

For once the guy delivers.

I guess we will see this next week.

169 posted on 09/01/2004 6:02:08 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT!)
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To: CedarDave
directly connects??

Not directly .. it doesn't show that HE burned the hut down .. just that it's burning on his 8 mm movie

I understand what you are getting at though .. these are just clips ... but it does lead one to wonder what is on the rest of the movie
170 posted on 09/01/2004 6:06:51 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: FesterUSMC
John Kerry is just like a toilet at the highway rest stop.

Once you finish just get up and walk away and it flushes itself, and that is what he is doing as the people who were considering voting for him finish and walk away.
171 posted on 09/01/2004 6:08:54 PM PDT by stockpirate ("Kerry, backed by, supported by, lead by, funded by, admired by, COMMUNISTS!" It's about VVAW)
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To: jennyp

Spooky, I remember the same episode of Mission Impossible.

The original film zoomed in on a uniform and was black for a millisecond. That's where the IMF spliced in the incriminating film...


172 posted on 09/01/2004 6:09:52 PM PDT by HiJinx (Pin-ups don't keep you warm at night!)
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To: Mo1

Sorry, I'm still confused about all this. Let me ask it this way. You have a PBS film with a clip showing a village being burnt down. Either on the clip or in the credits the film is credited to Kerry. Is that correct? Does he appear in the film or in the narration?


173 posted on 09/01/2004 6:10:36 PM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, XO USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: Phantom Lord

174 posted on 09/01/2004 6:10:54 PM PDT by Samwise (John Kerry is a pseudo-French elitist, ketchup-swigging gigolo, wannabe-hero, billionaire doofus.)
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175 posted on 09/01/2004 6:15:19 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Christian4Bush
"And still 40% of the country would vote for him, because he's NOT Bush."

And for all we know, Kerry may even be lying about that.

176 posted on 09/01/2004 6:15:19 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: alnick

Bob Kerrey is a Medal Of Honor Recipient. Unlike ALL other MOH awardees Kerrey direspects the MOH and all that it stands for. He is disgusting.


177 posted on 09/01/2004 6:21:14 PM PDT by Michael121 (An old soldier knows truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Ya know the liberals whole moralistic high ground was built on their becoming the antiwar party.Bellowing about American atrocities etc.Now if F-boy is a proven war criminal -how can they handle this? Its getting tougher to be a lib everyday.
178 posted on 09/01/2004 6:27:11 PM PDT by rubofthebrush (Clintoon went to Russia Kerry went to Paris)
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To: CedarDave
Sorry about the confusion .. my kids are bugging me big time .

Yes Kerry is in the documentary

in this one part it explains how many in the heartland supported the troops and the war

Then it says how not everyone did and it mentions how Lt. Kerry had a change of mind when he came back from the war.

It goes on to show film clips of Vietnam and tells how they are from an 8mm camera that Kerry owned and had with him on the mekong delta (sp?)

It shows the part that Kerry showed at the DNC Convention of the boats in the river and Kerry walking around in his vest and helmet

Then it shows an empty boat in the river being shot at

Then shows a scene of a swift boat beaching on the bank of the river

Then it shows some guy lighting a hut .. then a clip of a family in a boat, with a smaller boat next to it .. then shows a big gun shooting at a building and blowing it up (I thought at first it just knocked the wall down, I just checked it) .. then it jumps to a hut in flames .. then it shows Kerry and 2 other men walking through some place .. only a guess on my part, but it looks like the hut after it burned down .. BUT, I'm not real sure, just a guess

Throughout this part of the documentary .. Kerry is explaining why vets coming back were against the war and how no one was listening to them

179 posted on 09/01/2004 6:33:23 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Henchster
Have you noticed how REALLY HAPPY they look when they are around commies ?
180 posted on 09/01/2004 6:33:56 PM PDT by rubofthebrush (Clintoon went to Russia Kerry went to Paris)
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