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Why you should worry that there are fewer white male doctors
Telegraph ^ | 9/5/04 | Dr Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 09/05/2004 4:22:12 PM PDT by freedom44

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To: Jim Noble

The former.


121 posted on 09/06/2004 8:10:19 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Iwo Jima

I think you can work twelves forever with twelve hours off.


122 posted on 09/06/2004 8:13:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: Iwo Jima

That's what I think it is --- many of the foreign doctors come from countries that have socialized medicine and are pretty comfortable with the idea of it.

American doctors don't want the restrictions being placed on them --- restrictions that basically turn them into technicians looking up a set of managed care plans they must use.


123 posted on 09/06/2004 10:30:56 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jim Noble

But it's like what you said earlier --- that kind of schedule the residents used to face weeded out the less committed kinds.

Some good things that could come out of all this is that people should begin to realize their own health care isn't something they should turn over to a government beaurocrat or the clerks at their HMO or even to a physician. There isn't a magic pill that will take care of the effects of lifelong lack of exercise and wrong kind of eating. Most health problems and diseases can be avoided but it's something people have to do for themselves.


124 posted on 09/06/2004 10:34:45 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Torie
That reminds of a while back when Issac Asimov published a referenced work on famous scientists in history.

A group of feminist editors and reviewers excoriated the work and demanded that he rewrite the work to include famous women scientists.

At first, he simply informed them that there were no famous women scientists but they would have none of that and harangued him incessantly.

Finally, he gave in, went back to his research and came out with a second book chock-full of famous women scientists that no one had ever heard of.

125 posted on 09/06/2004 10:46:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: Old Professer

Isaac, sorry; it was my father's name also, my fingers are bad.


126 posted on 09/06/2004 10:48:55 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: razoroccam

Well, yes, but I didn't want to mention the garlic smell. ;>)


127 posted on 09/06/2004 11:34:15 AM PDT by ozzymandus ("So it is written, so it shall be danced"-Al Bundy)
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To: cyborg

Thanks :)


128 posted on 09/06/2004 3:33:38 PM PDT by moonman
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To: moonman; Former Proud Canadian; TASMANIANRED; LWalk18; Hank Rearden

Some links to back up my comments:

*Please note I am including liberal sources here, too. I invite you to make your own conclusions...same as I have.

http://lists.ucla.edu/pipermail/religionlaw/1997-August/009615.html

http://aad.english.ucsb.edu/docs/dmartin.html

http://www.adversity.net/FRAMES/Editorials/48_PatrickChavis.htm

http://www.uiowa.edu/~030116/116/articles/heriot.htm


130 posted on 09/07/2004 8:03:21 AM PDT by PeterFinn ("John Kerry is a flip-flopper and a phony" - Howell Raines quoted in the Wash. Post)
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To: Torie
The dirty little secret is that there are more avenues for success and renown then their used to be.......In 1800, the upper middle class consisted of doctors, lawyers, and preachers, with a few odd others. Today, we have about a hundred more choices....

Couldn't agree more. Not only are males not going to medical school any more, but they're not going to college in general like they used to.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. I've been out of college for 10 years, and from my experience the guys that never set foot on a college campus make just as much if not more $$$ than any college grads I know.

The craftsmen, tradesmen, small business owners, mechanics, salesmen, HVAC guys, etc etc, make just as much money and have a TON more job security than any college grad stuck in the corporate America grind.

Case in point....

I know of a guy that makes approx. $75,000 per year. We both live in semi-rural Southwest Virginia, so $75K a year is pretty good money. Well, he's the guy that sat next to me when we took the SAT tests in high school. We weren't great friends or anything, but we knew each other. I noticed at the time that his hands were dried up and peeling, he said that's because of the chemicals in the plant where he works. I snickered to myself "haha, you're a redneck loser, you'll work in a factory your whole life, and I'm going to college....hahaha."

Well, he's still working at that same place, 14 years and going strong. Now's he's the plant manager or something like that. I went to college, then the Army, got out and job hopped after layoffs, downsizing, etc.

Who's the smart one now? Why the heck did I bother with a $30,000 college education?

I don't think it's worth it any more. People can be just as successful, usualy a LOT more successful, by skipping college and getting out there and working, starting a business, learning a trade, etc.

Just my opinion, of course. :)

131 posted on 09/07/2004 8:25:47 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: cyborg

Or (according P.D.Q Bach's "The Seasonings"):

To curry favor,
Favor curry.


132 posted on 09/07/2004 8:55:41 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PeterFinn

Thanks for the links


133 posted on 09/07/2004 9:28:42 AM PDT by moonman
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