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Disregard for Human Life (Was Putin referring to the USA as the hostile foreign powers?)
The Moscow Times ^ | Tuesday, September 7, 2004 | By Pavel Felgenhauer

Posted on 09/07/2004 1:15:21 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: brigette
They did not reveal that the terrorists' only condition for releasing the children was for Putin to sign a decree on removing Russian forces from Chechnya.

A piece of paper could have saved hundreds of lives.

*Sigh*

21 posted on 09/07/2004 4:01:56 AM PDT by Colosis (Formatting Universe, 0.0000000000000004% complete.)
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To: Colosis

I hope that's not true.


22 posted on 09/07/2004 4:03:12 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

I think Russia views us with disdain in that we supported the Moslems in Kosovo so they would believe that we are also supporting the Chechens.

After 9/11, Russia chose, rather than to support us with Iraq, to side with the EU. Obvioulsy this was because of contracts with Saddam in the oil for food deal.

Russia hasn't quite figured out yet what its priorities are. Making money for the few or national security for its populace. Chechneya will be Russia's litmus test. If they give in, expect the others to do the same in regards to terror. If they fight, expect pols with communist ties to try to get rid of Putin.

The EU chose money because it believes that it is immune to terror due to support for Arab causes, like the Pallies.
It is safe to assume that France will cut a deal. Germany is playing both ends against the middle and right now are pretty safe.

Tough times in Europe. Tough decisions to make and on November 3, the cards get shown.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 6:24:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: brigette
I've been working on this. Thanks for pinging me. I'm leaning toward Germany and Austria as the "west" after initially suspecting us.

Both countries have had press calling for Russia's nuclear stock to be put under international control.

And if he had been referring to the US, he had to mean our support of Georgia. I am not finding anything to support this, at least not yet. But I will continue to work on it.

24 posted on 09/07/2004 7:14:01 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You are correct. Not only shot but when they ran out of ammon, they began grabbing them and stabbing them, according to one report. The intent was to kill all of the children, imo.

The North Ossetians are a small group of Christians with radical islam almost all around them. Chechen warlords, who run the country, want the entire Caucasus "returned" to Wahabi, according to them. Killing 1000 children of your only Christian neighbors is a good way to really reduce their population. I believe that was the goal.

25 posted on 09/07/2004 7:16:35 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: brigette
invite him to Brussels or to the White House

Ah see, he did mention Brussels. Thanks.

26 posted on 09/07/2004 7:17:27 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: familyop
Notice Putin's recent flaggelation of his country on "weakness." That's a very bad sign, folks, and not necessarily only for the terrorists

Russians have been complaining about lack of internal security for some time now. Putin was acknowledging his need to listen to them and respond.

27 posted on 09/07/2004 7:18:49 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: Colosis
They did not reveal that the terrorists' only condition for releasing the children was for Putin to sign a decree on removing Russian forces from Chechnya.

And actually this is untrue. One demand was for the president of North Ossetia to come and talk to them. He never came. There are lots of questions about this, and a mob-like attitude building among the citizens with talk about a lynching of this president. There is much suspicion that he was involved or knew this was coming.

The other demand was for the release of Ingush terrorists held prisoner, from a raid in Ingushetia on the police. Stolen police uniforms were used in this attack on the capital and some 98 police officers were killed, along with about 20 civilians.

The real intentions were to kill the children and re-stir the unrest between Christian North Ossetia and muslim Ingushetia.

It is working. The North Ossetians were on the border last night planning to attack citizens in Ingushetia but were restrained by police from doing so.

28 posted on 09/07/2004 7:23:46 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: garylmoore
Does anyone really think that Putin is accusing the USA for these attacks? That is ridiculous. I give him credit for being smarter than that.

There are serious problems between Georgia and Russia right now. We have supported Georgia. Georgian politicians are speaking of recognizing chechnya as an independent state.

The US has been talking to, and just recently granted asylum to, a former chechen rebel commander.

Neither of these actions makes us look trustworthy. Russia feels like we did just after 9-11, hurt, scared, and angry, but afraid to know who to trust also. Lots of rumors flying. We really need to pray for them, if you pray.

29 posted on 09/07/2004 7:28:36 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: brigette

Have you seen the specific european criticism of Putin and the handling of the massacre? Swiss and other leaders, I think Danish, were the ones who suggested he should have talked to the scum holding the hostages. And this would have made it all go away and be nicey-nice.


30 posted on 09/07/2004 7:30:52 AM PDT by MarMema (Ikcheria is a gateway to hades)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Boris and Clinton had a father and son relationship. WE taxpayers were used to buy out Boris and his buddies via algore and Clintons adopted N.Korea from them because they could no longer afford their upkeep.

This nation sent signals to "Russia" that we were joining them during Clintonism in that stated foreign policy of "EQUALIZE ALL NATIONS".

Putin has his hands full and time will tell what direction he ultimately takes, but I have doubts it will be in favor of US.


31 posted on 09/07/2004 7:33:14 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: angkor
it'll be a long, cold, and lonely walk in our own struggle against the Islamists.

Well stated!

32 posted on 09/07/2004 7:51:15 AM PDT by rocksblues (Ah! The smell of toast on a November morning.)
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To: MarMema
...good way to really reduce their population.

This information adds to the picture of human beings mired in unfathomable depravity. Evil exists. Those who shot six-year-olds in the back are burning in hell.

Sooner the better.

33 posted on 09/07/2004 11:10:39 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are still very few shades of gray.)
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To: Calpernia; jerseygirl; Alabama MOM

ping


34 posted on 09/18/2004 7:42:43 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: PIF

Ping


35 posted on 11/12/2015 9:28:39 AM PST by MarMema
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