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Ranchers try to boost alternative grazing method
Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, September 08, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/08/2004 10:58:49 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

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Just found this interesting for some reason. Yet another very simple (non-technological) solution to the environmental pressures of food production. Imagine what might be done if people really put their minds to it?

It is not often pointed out that genetic modification has not yet been employed to increase crop yields. Primarly because it has not been necessary - yet.

1 posted on 09/08/2004 10:58:51 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: farmfriend

Ping


2 posted on 09/08/2004 10:59:19 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
3 posted on 09/08/2004 11:01:20 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Should also be better for reducing parasite load in the cattle...


4 posted on 09/08/2004 11:02:31 AM PDT by Fury
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BTTT!!!!!!!


5 posted on 09/08/2004 11:02:43 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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"Though the rotational system is catching on, it's doing so slowly."

Hardly.

This is not a "new" system by any stretch. Cattlemen did this type of thing long, long before these newcomers in No. Dak. came on the scene.

In most cases it means that the cattleman has to dig up the capital for miles and miles of expensive fencing to make it work. Hence, some do and some don't, depending on a lot of things.

6 posted on 09/08/2004 11:09:12 AM PDT by nightdriver
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This is new? We did this 35 years ago on our family farm. It's just common sense.


7 posted on 09/08/2004 11:11:29 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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"It's just common sense."


My friend, this may the produt that is in shortest supply and in greatest demand at FR, in the US and the entire world . . . .


8 posted on 09/08/2004 11:17:54 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I do something similar to this on my couch so I don't put a big divot on any one cushion.


9 posted on 09/08/2004 11:18:41 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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lol


10 posted on 09/08/2004 11:20:36 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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Goven came up with a new grazing system

Bull!

Management intensive rotational grazing is as old as the hills. It mimics nature when nature still had preditors. Herds of ruminants bunched together, ate and trampled grass, and moved on to let the grass recover. Actually ruminants and grass co-evolved to suit each other's needs.

Allan Savory's book "Wholistic Management" is a good source. Also Andre Voisin's books such as "Grass Productivity". Not new books!

11 posted on 09/08/2004 11:21:34 AM PDT by Poincare
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Fantastic. More Freepers should post book references!!!!

I am nominating farmfriend for the most intelligent ping list. If there isn't such a category, there should be.

By the way, any farmer out there who wants to visit Europe to see how they preserve the traditional family farm has an open invitation. It is a ridiculous amount of money well spent, unlike US farm subsidies.


12 posted on 09/08/2004 11:25:43 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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Gosh, almost as sophisticated a method as those practiced by the first European settlers! If this guy figures out that quick rotations of both cattle and sheep is even more productive, he will have advanced all the way to the 1850s!

The BLM has truly made a mess of things.

13 posted on 09/08/2004 11:29:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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Allan Savory's book "Wholistic Management" is a good source.

Allan Savory's book "Holistic Management" is a good source.

14 posted on 09/08/2004 11:32:06 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly stupid.)
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And I misspelled predator too. Savory worked for the South African equivalent of the BLM and was one of the only people there that noticed that they made things worse and then tried to correct by applying even more of the wrong practices.


15 posted on 09/08/2004 11:36:37 AM PDT by Poincare
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Having grown up on a ranch, I find these kind of articles interesting. The two problems that come to mine immediately are:

1. The expense of fencing, as mentioned above.
2. The need to have a source of water in each grazing area. It is harder to find water than to string fence.

Still, it is good to see an article that does not portray ranchers as raping mother earth...
16 posted on 09/08/2004 11:49:51 AM PDT by goldfinch
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The issue of water is of fundamental importance. Thanks for mentioning it, I did not even think about it.

Fences are a matter of capital, water is a resource issue. One can be bought and put in place with minimal consequence, the other not.

Enlightening. Thank you.


17 posted on 09/08/2004 11:54:07 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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Building, energizing, and maintaining pasture fencing systems is the most expensive component of raising sheep/lambs. It's hard enough to fence in 80 acres. Now imagine fencing that again into a checkerboard? Ten to 15 days is way too long also. To avoid soil compaction and to get a complete single clipping of everything, four days in May and June, three days in July, August, September.

To raise livestock you just need to be a grass farmer. If you raise and manage quality grasses, the animals do the rest all by themselves. I pasture about 100 acres and hay another 100.

To fence a perimeter costs about $3.50 per foot if you do it according to my farmowners insurance policy, a permanant fence (not just high tensile electric) with woven wire and a hot wire 6" below the bottom of the woven wire and three hot wires above the woven wire and one hot extended three inches from the fence to prevent animals from leaning on it. Interior pasture sections which need to consist of at least sections small enough to force 20 animals per acre. Those paddocks cost about $1.25 per foot to build. Next you need gates and a couple well trained livestock dogs to move the stock constantly and you need to check on the residue for overseeding and noxious weed control.

I could easily spend $50,000 for fencing which will last 20 years tops. About $2,000 every year for maintenance.

In the end, it's cheaper to hay as much unpastured land as possible and feed lot your stock. When hay prices spike, turn your stock into fields which have become stockpiled on growth. If hay stays cheap, cut it and bale what you have stockpiled.

The key to successfully raising livestock is to have many feeding scenarios which enable you to select the most economical feed choice of any given month. Filled silos, three cuts of hay, and plenty of emergency pasture is the best way to go if you ask me. Experts in the Ag consulting business are as plentiful as grasshoppers and their advice is usually just as valuable.

18 posted on 09/08/2004 12:05:47 PM PDT by blackdog (Hell is an endless hayfield needing to be raked, baled, and put up.)
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Goven came up with a new grazing system.

This is not New techology. USDA Livestock Specialists have been recommending this technique for ranchers with marginal pasture ground for at least 10 years,, maybe longer.

19 posted on 09/08/2004 12:35:33 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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1. The expense of fencing, as mentioned above.
2. The need to have a source of water in each grazing area. It is harder to find water than to string fence.

IOW good ranching is work. It takes a people on horseback and maybe a good cattle dog or two to keep them moving properly.

20 posted on 09/08/2004 12:42:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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