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To: Yaelle
" However, we all have to get "married" legally at some local government building."

Not unless you want the recognition. As it is, folks are free to marry by a religious ceremony and are not held by force of law to obtain a license. As far as I know the tax penalties still apply to marriage.

The reason they want the legal status is to use it as justification for forcing the relationships to be accepted on an equal basis with the historical meaning. The design behind this is to use the force of govm't to silence those that don't want their kids to be taught that it is not a good thing.

The fact is, that this gay marriage crap isn't even about friendship fundamentally. If it were, then present contract law would suffice. It's about normalizing all forms of sexual activities and the destruction of ancient historical concepts of family. The goal is to obliterate the family as the foundation of society and replace it with socialist bureaucracies of experts and their minions of underlings.

It's nihilism practiced for the advancement of socialism. The idea that gays need to be recognized as married is ridiculous. They will always be pretending.

55 posted on 09/08/2004 7:02:09 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets
The reason they want the legal status is to use it as justification for forcing the relationships to be accepted on an equal basis with the historical meaning.

Half right. Liberal gays want that. But the truth is, those liberal, promiscuous gays do not really want marriage, with all its drawbacks. They are just shouting "for show" to get what you said above. However, conservative gays either do not want gay "marriage" but only equal rights re insurance, etc., or they simply want to be able to live a committed life recognized by society although they know and admit they will never reach the historical meaning behind the perfect union of a man and a woman.

It's about normalizing all forms of sexual activities and the destruction of ancient historical concepts of family. The goal is to obliterate the family as the foundation of society and replace it with socialist bureaucracies of experts and their minions of underlings.

I used to think the same thing. I think it's more simple for the gay couples I know. They just want to be able to live a better life, one very much like the straight couple next door.

Both gay couples I know really want the insurance coverage from their partner's work. My dear friend, a lesbian, has terminal cancer. Her partner is a doctor. If only she were able to reap spousal coverage. At least they do have resources but many do not.

I used to be UPSET at the thought of gays getting spousal insurance coverage. However, they are not taking away any coverage from straight people. In an office, the workers are either straight or gay. It is not logical that they are given spousal coverage only because they are straight. That is actually discrimination. It's not about being "PC," it's just fair.

Gays are not going away, folks. Let's draw them toward our party since they are here anyway.

65 posted on 09/08/2004 8:53:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: spunkets

One of the top driving forces for "gay marriage" is their desire to foist the expenses for their ugly diseases off on the mass of the American public. Just follow the money. They want medical coverage for AIDS and other plumbing problems.

If some professional gay has great medical benefits that can include his partner this makes him a more desirable marriage partner or just domestic partner. If he works for a corporation or government that extend coverage to gays. Maybe it's the older, sophisticated gay dudes driving this (gay marriage) to enhance their access to young gay butt


75 posted on 09/09/2004 1:23:22 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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