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To: sinkspur

Did it have the superscript "th", as shown in the body of the letter in "111th"? I used them many years ago (late 70s and on), but don't recall.


151 posted on 09/09/2004 9:04:55 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: bootless; sinkspur; Mo1; Howlin; Timeout
I found this over at Powerline...

UPDATE 2: Reader John Risko adds:

I was a clerk/typist for the US Navy at the Naval Underwater Systems Center (NUSC) in Newport RI for my summer job in 1971 when I was in college. I note the following with regard to the Killian memos:

1) Tom Mortensen is absolutely correct. Variable type was used only for special printing jobs, like official pamphlets. These documents are forgeries, and not even good ones. Someone could have at least found an old pre-Selectric IBM (introduced around 1962). Actually, I believe we were using IBM Model C's at the time, which was the precursor to the Selectric.

2) I also used a Variype machine in 1971. I fooled around with it in my spare time. It was incredibly difficult to set up and use. It was also extremely hard to correct mistakes on the machine. Most small letters used two spaces. Capital letters generally used three spaces. I think letters like "i" may have used one space. Anyway, you can see that this type of machine was piloted by an expert, and it would NEVER be used for a routine memo. A Lt. Colonel would not be able to identify a Varitype machine, let alone use it.

3) US Navy paper at the time was not 8 1/2 x 11. It was 8 x 10 1/2. I believe this was the same throughout the military, but someone will have to check on that. This should show up in the Xeroxing, which should have lines running along the sides of the Xerox copy.

4) I am amused by the way "147 th Ftr.Intrcp Gp." appears in the August 1, 1972 document. It may have been written that way in non-forged documents, but as somone who worked for ComCruDesLant, I know the military liked to bunch things together. I find "147 th" suspicious looking. 147th looks better to me, but the problem with Microsoft Word is that it keeps turning the "th" tiny if it is connected to a number like 147. And finally......

5) MORE DEFINITIVE PROOF OF FORGERY: I had neglected even to look at the August 18, 1973 memo to file. This forger was a fool. This fake document actually does have the tiny "th" in "187th" and there is simply no way this could have occurred in 1973. There are no keys on any typewriter in common use in 1973 which could produce a tiny "th." The forger got careless after creating the August 1, 1972 document and slipped up big-time.

In summary, the variable type reveals the Killian memos to be crude forgeries, the tiny "th" confirms it in the 8/18/73 memo, and I offer my other points as icing on the cake.

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159 posted on 09/09/2004 9:10:02 AM PDT by Dog
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To: bootless; Southack

Please see my last.


202 posted on 09/09/2004 9:33:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: bootless

Refer to Memo 04 May 1972

The heading has 111th typed as if before superscript was available.

Section 1 - You are ordered to report to commander, 111 F.I.S. - Note total absence of "th" in any form.

Section 2 - Report to 111 superscript th

In such a short memo, would anyone use, three different ways to type the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron?

An inexperienced typist may.

Did LTC in the ANG routinely type their own stuff, even CYA's?


207 posted on 09/09/2004 9:36:48 AM PDT by Seeking the truth ( www.0cents.com - Whom Would Terrorists Vote For? T/Shirt)
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