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ANG Docs are Fake
Hank All-American | September 9, 2004 | Hank All-American

Posted on 09/09/2004 12:16:21 PM PDT by Hank All-American

Okay, guys and gals. As a former Air Force officer and special agent for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI), I have reviewed the documents released by CBS and can say with a high degree of confidence they are fake.

1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out.

2--no one issues an "order" through a "memo." Maybe a letter, but nothing as informal as a "memo."

3--the signature (initials) of Lt. Col. Killian is clearly a cut-and-paste job. The last letter ("K") is cut off at the top, where two lines start to curve toward each other in a loop. Impossible to to do by hand. This signature was cut from another document and pasted or taped on the document.

4--No letterhead. Do you really think commanders typed out a the squadron on every letter? No. Letterhead was used.

5--No way there were superscripts back then. No way. Even if it was theoretically possible (which it wasn't), the national guard isn't exactly an early-adopter of technology. This ability wasn't even available at any price for several years.

Conclusion. I think they're fake. As a lawyer, I can also tell you this kind of thing is far more common than people think.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushang; killian
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1 posted on 09/09/2004 12:16:22 PM PDT by Hank All-American
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To: Hank All-American

If this is any indication of how low the media will go to slime Bush, then we can expect a very eventful October.


2 posted on 09/09/2004 12:19:41 PM PDT by Brilliant
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[ 1--the month in a military date is always three letters. August is spelled out. ]

Obviously crafted by someone who didn't serve.


3 posted on 09/09/2004 12:19:45 PM PDT by AWestCoaster (FACTS are stubborn things. Your entitled to your own opinion, but not entitled to your own facts.)
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To: Hank All-American

Could this be a good case for libel or something more serious for President Bush? I hope so. Wasn't the guy who came up with this mess convicted of some crimes? I'm sure he would know how to find a forgerer.


4 posted on 09/09/2004 12:19:45 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Hank All-American

This is fasinating! This deeply saddens me that the democrats would sink so low as to lie...poor dan rather, he must be deeply saddened too.....


5 posted on 09/09/2004 12:19:55 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Hank All-American
Drudge has already come out with a CNS report siting experts who think the thing was written on a post '72 word processor.

Think it was the use of "wing-dings" that really clued them in. ;>

6 posted on 09/09/2004 12:20:08 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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And Kerry faked his entire Vietnam service but for being there.

NEXT!!!

7 posted on 09/09/2004 12:20:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Hank All-American
The last letter ("K") is cut off at the top,

I knew these documents weren't Kosher>i

8 posted on 09/09/2004 12:20:35 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Hank All-American

Please join the discussion here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210987/posts

Many have been pinged to that sight already and much information is already there. We would love having your input.


9 posted on 09/09/2004 12:21:12 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Jewels1091
This deeply saddens me

Tom Daschle is deeply saddened as well.

10 posted on 09/09/2004 12:21:43 PM PDT by mingusthecat (Mingus has again opined. Like any cat, she doesn't really care what YOU think.)
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Can anyone tell me what a proportional spaced font is?


11 posted on 09/09/2004 12:21:49 PM PDT by cwiz24
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4--No letterhead. Do you really think commanders typed out a the squadron on every letter? No. Letterhead was used.

Bingo ! NO correspondence in the military is official unless it is on letterhead.

12 posted on 09/09/2004 12:22:30 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Virgnian by birth, Texan in my heart)
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What did Kerry Know? When did he Know IT!


13 posted on 09/09/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by renotse
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These silly attacks are not hurting Bush. But they will accomplish one thing, that is making people sick about hearing attacks about military records. And that's what this is all about, using Bogus attacks on Bush so people don't want to hear legitimate attacks on Kerry.


14 posted on 09/09/2004 12:22:47 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Jalapeno

Wing-dings! LOL!


15 posted on 09/09/2004 12:23:38 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Hank All-American

I think a lot of us retired folks, who were in in the 70s know better. There weren't any computers back then. We used (in 1976) old typewriters, and the first shop I was in had two. One was a selectric, the other was an older electromechanical affair that didn't work well. The other shops next door had various types. NONE of them were "printers" like we're used to using today, and none of them had the same type of font (except the IBM Selectrics).


16 posted on 09/09/2004 12:23:43 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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God, I hope this can be proved. Rather would be ruined. Then, hopefully, someone will start a REAL discussion about media bias.


17 posted on 09/09/2004 12:23:56 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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Bingo ! NO correspondence in the military is official unless it is on letterhead.

Which by the way is the case in order to prevent FORGERIES, FAKES, and LIES.

18 posted on 09/09/2004 12:24:07 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Virgnian by birth, Texan in my heart)
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To: mrsmel

Bush won't sue, but I think if this turns out to be true (fakes), 60 Minutes is finished.


19 posted on 09/09/2004 12:25:05 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Jewels1091
"This deeply saddens me that the democrats would sink so low as to lie..."

And I'm sure it SURPRISES you, too, huh.

20 posted on 09/09/2004 12:25:32 PM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Misunderestimated Again Bush/Cheney '04)
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