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Dan Rather Lied: Company that owns font did not License it till 1980!
Internet ^ | 5 May 1994 | Charles Bigalow

Posted on 09/10/2004 5:23:19 PM PDT by Thanatos

Times (New) Roman and its part in the Development of Scalable Font Technology

By Charles Bigelow

Charles Bigelow posted this article to the Usenet newsgroup "comp.fonts" in May 1994 in response to the question: What's the difference between Times Roman and Times New Roman? I am grateful to Prof. Bigelow for his permission to publish the article. I have taken the liberty of retitling it.

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: What's the difference between Times Roman and Times New Roman?
From: Charles Bigelow
Date: 5 May 1994

"Times Roman" is the name used by Linotype, and the name they registered as a trademark for the design in the U.S. "Times New Roman" was and still is the name used by The Monotype Corporation. The face was developed by The Times newspaper for its own use, under the design direction of Stanley Morison. Originally cut by the Monotype Corp. in England, the design was also licensed to Linotype, because The Times used Linotype equipment for much of its actual production. The story of "The Times New Roman" can be found in Stanley Morison's A Tally of Types, published by Cambridge University Press, with additional, though not quite the same, versions in Nicolas Barker's biography of Stanley Morison, and in James Moran's biography of SM. (There should be an apostrophe in that name, "Times' Roman", I suppose, though no-one uses it.)

During WWII, the American Linotype company, in a generous spirit of Allied camaraderie, applied for registration of the trademark name "Times Roman" as its own, not Monotype's or The Times', and received the registration in 1945.

In the 1980's, all this was revisited when some entrepreneurs, desirous of gaining the rights to use the name, applied to Rupert Murdoch, who owned The Times; separately, a legal action was also initiated to clarify the right of Monotype to use the name in the U.S., despite Linotype's registration.

The outcome of all of the legal maneuverings is that Linotype and its licensees like Adobe and Apple continue to use the name "Times Roman", while Monotype and its licensees like Microsoft use the name "Times New Roman".

During the decades of transatlantic "sharing" of the Times designs, and the transfer of the faces from metal to photo to digital, various differences developed between the versions marketed by Linotype and Monotype. Especially these became evident when Adobe released the PostScript version, for various reasons having to do with how Adobe produced the original PostScript implementations of Times. The width metrics were different, as well as various proportions and details.

In the late 1980's, Monotype redrew its Times New Roman to make it fit exactly the proportions and metrics of the Adobe-Linotype version of Times Roman. Monotype claimed that its new version was better than the Adobe-Linotype version, because of smoother curves, better detailing, and generally greater sensitivity to the original designs done for The Times and Monotype by Victor Lardent, who worked under the direction of Stanley Morison. During the same period, Adobe upgraded its version of Times, using digital masters from Linotype, which of course claimed that it had a superior version, so there was a kind of competition to see who had the most refined, sensitive, original, genuine, bona-fide, artistically and typographically correct version. Many, perhaps most, users didn't notice and didn't care about these subtle distinctions, many of which were invisible at 10 pt at 300 dpi (which is an em of 42 pixels, a stem of three pixels, a serif of 1 pixel, and so on).

When Microsoft produced its version of Times New Roman, licensed from Monotype, in TrueType format, and when Apple produced its version of Times Roman, licensed from Linotype, in TrueType format, the subtle competition took on a new aspect, because both Microsoft and Apple expended a great deal of time and effort to make the TrueType versions as good as, or better than, the PostScript version. During the same period, Adobe released ATM along with upgraded versions of its core set of fonts, for improved rasterization on screen. Also, firms like Imagen, now part of QMS, and Sun developed rival font scaling technologies, and labored to make sure that their renderings of Times, licensed from Linotype in both cases, were equal to those of their competitors. Hence, the perceived quality of the Times design became a litmus for the quality of several font formats. Never before, and probably never again, would the precise placement of pixels in the serifs or 's' curves etc. of Times Roman occupy the attention of so many engineers and computer scientists. It was perhaps the supreme era of the Digital Fontologist.

As for the actual visual differences in the designs, well, like any good academic author, I leave the detection and analysis of those "as an exercise for the reader".

© Charles Bigelow


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1 posted on 09/10/2004 5:23:21 PM PDT by Thanatos
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To: Thanatos

bump :)


2 posted on 09/10/2004 5:24:03 PM PDT by USA_Soccer (Try a better (free + open source) browser -> Mozilla Firefox @ mozilla.org)
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To: Thanatos

I do love Times New Roman... I wonder if Dan likes it or if he is just going insane....


3 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:13 PM PDT by Porterville (How can the median price of a home in CA be 450,000 dollars? How? Where is the money?)
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To: USA_Soccer

We picked apart their first report, let's destroy their increadibly weak defense.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:15 PM PDT by waterman478
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To: Thanatos

Already posted here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212542/posts?page=979#979


5 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:09 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Kerry's Campaign fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: Porterville

I like the elegance of Ariel, myself.


6 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:33 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Thanatos
I leave the detection and analysis of those "as an exercise for the reader".

LOL, I've decided, Rather has to go.

7 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:39 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Thanatos

This is what I love about the Internet (and FR)! This is the closest thing to omniscience ("all-knowing," "all-seeing") on the planet earth!


8 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:46 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Porterville
Screenshot of what Dan calls "the same superscript" on my site:

http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/001564.html

They've got nothing. And they know it.
9 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:54 PM PDT by murdocj (Murdoc Online - Everyone is entitled to my opinion (http://www.murdoconline.net))
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To: Thanatos

LOL! That took about 5 seconds for the "idiots" in the Blogosphere to uncover.

I'm loving this. 60 minutes has been grilling people mercilessly for decades. Now they're getting the same treatment from the blogosphere. Dan Rather's acting like some Cigarette Executive being interviewed by Mike Wallace.


10 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:13 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: My2Cents

Has someone taken a look at Kerry military records to see if they were written in the same style?


11 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:58 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Thanatos
ROFLMAO!
BUMP
12 posted on 09/10/2004 5:30:03 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Thanatos

Dan Blather's report was handed to him by the CBS Legal Department, because CBS may be subject to fines and sanctions if it can be shown that they maliciously used "evidence" against a public offical that was known to be fraudulant.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 5:31:38 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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To: Thanatos

bump


14 posted on 09/10/2004 5:31:42 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Thanatos
What's the Font Type Kennth!?
16 posted on 09/10/2004 5:31:55 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Dan Rather's acting like some Cigarette Executive being interviewed by Mike Wallace.

Please, please..find a way to debunk this DNC mouthpiece!!

17 posted on 09/10/2004 5:32:11 PM PDT by evad (We cannot afford 9-10 thinkers in a 9-11 world)
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To: Thanatos

bumping.........


18 posted on 09/10/2004 5:33:29 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: kjnspc

So, are you saying that Killian went to a printshop and had the memos for his personal files typeset?


19 posted on 09/10/2004 5:33:45 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Kerry's Campaign fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: Dutch Boy

No... Mr. kerry won't sign his SF 180 which would allow us folks to examine his complete record... What we get has been "typed" on the same typewriter used by Dan Blather... What a charade this whole thing is...


20 posted on 09/10/2004 5:33:49 PM PDT by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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