This is Amazing, CBS Used Handwriting Not Typewriting Analyst...

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[kcinnh]

'KEY CHALLENGES TO NATIONAL GUARD DOCUMENTS ANSWERED' Fri Sep 10 2004 19:03:11 ET

The biggest challenges to the authenticity of the documents featured in the 60 MINUTES segment on President Bush's Texas National Guard service are answered in a report to be broadcast on the CBS EVENING NEWS tonight (6:30-7:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. The report states that the type style, typewriter and the superscript function critics claim did not exist at the time the memos from President Bush's former Texas National Guard commander were typed were indeed all available. In fact, similar raised "th" superscripts have been found on other National Guard documents the White House has released from the president's file.

Furthermore, Marcel Mately, the document and handwriting expert used to authenticate the documents for CBS News and 60 MINUTES, asserts that copies of the memos critics are examining have been degraded by reproduction though photocopying, computer scanning and faxing and are not reliable representations of the memos.

A transcript is attached:

[kcinnh]

An handwriting expert...amazing how dumb they think we are.

[cmsgop]

I'm just a Sheep! Baaaaa,Baaaaaaa

[DaveyB]

The writing is authentic (though Xeroxed) the memo is forged -

Duh!

CBS is the fake!

[woodb01]

grrrrrr!!! I've been working on this research for TWO HOURS!!!!

YOU BUMS, YOU BEAT ME TO IT!!!

BUT, I PROVIDED THE PROOF THAT HE VIOLATED HIS ETHICS RULES, **AND** THAT HE VIOLATED HIS OWN PUBLISHED STANDARDS :)

Know how I know about all of this kind of stuff?? I've STOMPED EXPERTS IN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS BEFORE!!

[FesterUSMC]

the CBS documents were made with MS Word end of story.

[HawaiianGecko]

It isn't the ^{superscripting} that should be questioned.  It's the kerning that should be questioned!  The three address lines at the top are each exactly centered including the 'kerned' letters, and that is impossible to do with a typewriter.  It requires a word processor that can analyze which letters are next to each other such at the letters 'to'. The 'o' invades the 't' space and a typewriter simply cannot do that period.

Also a retired colonel was on Special Report this evening and he brought with him documents from the period in question and claims they had to be typed literally on the same machine.  He claims the typeface is completely different.

[nopardons]

A "handwriting expert" for a typewritten "memo"? HUNH?

[cmsgop]

Keep Working! It's all good....

[blue-duncan]

`Does anyone have any informaation on Robert Strong?

[Dr. Frank fan]

Here's the important thing:

(1) They're hanging their entire defense on a handwriting expert

(2) They've admitted they DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINALS.

Just to be explicit: the testimony of a handwriting expert that the signature looks legit on a COPY of something doesn't mean JACK SQUAT. For crying out loud I could go to the White House website, look around, mess around with cut 'n paste, and produce a (COPY of) a "memo" signed by George W. Bush, and the signature would be entirely legit. (It REALLY WOULD be a copy of Bush's signature.)

Like you said: how stupid do they think we are?

[KellyAdmirer]

Dan does not understand kerning. In fact, Dan does not understand computers, he types on an old manual. Dan does understand handwriting, though. Hence, the handwriting expert to examine a typed document.

Hey, makes perfect sense to me.

[Trainer]

One thing that no one has answered...is where did these documents come from. CBS says that they are original. If so, then they were stolen from the National Guard files. Remember, records created on an organizations time, using an organization equipment belongs to the organization. This means that someone has committed a FELONY -- Theft of Government Records!

[Dr. Frank fan]

Here's the important thing:

(1) They're hanging their entire defense on a handwriting expert

(2) They've admitted they DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINALS.

Just to be explicit: the testimony of a handwriting expert that the signature looks legit on a COPY of something doesn't mean JACK SQUAT. For crying out loud I could go to the White House website, look around, mess around with cut 'n paste, and produce a (COPY of) a "memo" signed by George W. Bush, and the signature would be entirely legit. (It REALLY WOULD be a copy of Bush's signature.)

Like you said: how stupid do they think we are?

[JMS]

The DUms have backup, Madame Cleo also says the memos are real.

[jongaltsr]

On top of that the explanation was so much hot air saying basically that they are just going to stall for time in hopes that people will forget or that something more important comes along to change the subject.

....and they will drag it as long as they can if we let them.

[patriciamary]

We need a damning swift boat ad!

[arjay]

Anyone know anything about this "Robert Strong" that confirms the documents? He apparently worked with Killian, according to Blather.

[FesterUSMC]

I nominate the word of the year for Free Republic "kerning"

[Enduring Freedom]

Matley is the same clown who verified the VINCE FOSTER SUICIDE NOTE against a wall of experts who said they were forged.

Could this punk be in someone's pocket at the DNC?

[kcinnh]

I am still looking for the "memo" concerning Bush, it has a fax number on it. I would like to see who faxed it to Danny Boy.