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The Evidence Against Rather
free republic ^ | 11 Sep 04 | self

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:18:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot

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1 posted on 09/10/2004 7:18:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for doing this. I was just thinking it would be a good idea, but had no clue how to accumulate all the reasons.


2 posted on 09/10/2004 7:20:11 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: SkyPilot
Not true about Times New Roman. Last night Southack posted something that showed that Times New Roman was available on the 1972 IBM Executive, a high end typewriter.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 7:20:55 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: SkyPilot
24. Subject matter bizarre

Proof positive the forger was someone from DU.

5 posted on 09/10/2004 7:21:01 PM PDT by TheBigB (REMEMBER POST #47!)
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To: SkyPilot

Need to correct (drop) your item 21 - I looked at all the GWB records released and in a couple of instances the PO Box 34567 does appear on official documents


6 posted on 09/10/2004 7:21:58 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: SkyPilot
Let me repeat my post from earlier on this:

CBS has already released a statement that the documents were so xeroxed and fixed were "difficult" to examine. This is incredible.

What they are trying to cover up is that the experts are now looking at pixel area and pattern.

That is a photo from the MSNBC website.

CBS knows that if the experts can determine the forgery, they will try to hide behind the fact that the documents were "copied and faxed too many times."

The forgers copied them 20 times to make them look old. I can make my last month electric bill look old by putting it through the copier 4 times.

CBS will try to hide behind the criminality of their own forgery.

7 posted on 09/10/2004 7:22:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Great idea. I'm glad to see it all in one place.


8 posted on 09/10/2004 7:22:24 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: SkyPilot

But, But, But,....

I heard Dan on the radio at 9 Eastern say that he had a response to #46 (the "th" thing). Y'know he found a "th" on an old Courier document that looked compressed. So there!

So your other 47 stinking objections don't count, OK?


9 posted on 09/10/2004 7:22:41 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: SkyPilot

It would be nice if someone posted this list on a website and kept it up to date for reference.


10 posted on 09/10/2004 7:23:19 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: SkyPilot

Don't give Rather any straw men to knock down:

> Box 34567 is suspicious, at best.

But appears in a known-valid Bush doc, a DD 44.
I'd drop this as evidence of forgery.

> 26. Kerning was not available

And may not be present in the forgeries. Kerning is off
by default in MS Word, and a non-kerned effort generates
a match that is more than adequately close. The kerning
charge is not needed.

Add: compare dates to where Bush actually was on
those dates.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 7:24:31 PM PDT by Boundless
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Thanks,SkyPilot.

There's been so much info,it's been hard to keep straight.

This will make things easier for anyone to understand,particularly people that aren't FReepers.

12 posted on 09/10/2004 7:26:31 PM PDT by Free Trapper (Terrorism is the Black Heart of Islam,not the fringe!)
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To: litany_of_lies
I watched in amazement as Rather defended the indefensible-as if this was going away. I emailed CBS by going to their website and posting a complaint under the contact link at the bottom. I referred to these discrepancies briefly but also to the fact that CBS spiked the views of those closest to the commander, his son and widow.

I also informed them I would contact advertisers on the network. I think it is time to Freep those advertisers. Let's see how much pressure can be brought to bear. I called for them to come clean, fire Rather, and publish concrete steps they would follow to regain their credibility.(If they ever had any.) If they bother to write back I'll add what they said.
13 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:10 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: litany_of_lies
Rather Lied.
Typewriters cannot autocenter text.
This is what autocentering looks like.




14 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:15 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: litany_of_lies

" "Boy, this is gonna hurt more than a summer hurricane on a Texas asphalt driveway with a long tailed cat a-fixen to drive the heat."

15 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Add: Wife and son of Killian disclaim and doubt documents.
Apart from that resounding non-endorsement on its face,
these "documents" obviously did not come from Killian's
"personal files".


16 posted on 09/10/2004 7:29:45 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: litany_of_lies
It's the same defense that the Libs used to counter the Swifties: One new witness to counter a dozen Swifties differing recollection, and they therefor conclude the Swifties version is debunked.
17 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:28 PM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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Also just to add to and clarify your point 8 - "signature block" - following the stated rank, the caption "TX ANG" is missing from the CBS hoax documents - all GWB records (as well as my own form the same period at Ellington) carry this standard (military branch) designation


18 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:38 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: SkyPilot

I LOVE you! May I pass it on?


19 posted on 09/10/2004 7:31:48 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: CobaltBlue

Alright, "circa" 1972 .. what is the exact date on which these fonts became available for use on IBM Selectrics?


20 posted on 09/10/2004 7:32:46 PM PDT by Chummy ("I Rather Know when I See BS." RepublicanAttackSquad.biz: "A vote 4 Kerry is a vote for Osama")
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