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So what is the real story about Cardinal Ratzinger's statement? Can Catholics Vote Pro-Abortion?
Catholic World News ^ | 09.11.04 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 09/11/2004 10:41:32 AM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 09/11/2004 10:41:34 AM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 09/11/2004 10:44:51 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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ping

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3 posted on 09/11/2004 10:47:37 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Coleus

ALL that meeds to be said is:

1. Abortion is a SIN
2. Abortionists are murderers - Murder is a Mortal Sin
3. Promoting abortion is akin to aiding and abetting MURDER and is also a SIN.
4. SILENCE is NOT Golden - especially when silence is taken the same as agreement.

Now - let your concience be your guide - but remember the consequences - If you do not believe in the Church, you do not belong in the Church. PERIOD!


4 posted on 09/11/2004 10:50:01 AM PDT by steplock
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I'm not a Catholic but when I heard about this, I thought it was just wrong. It's like he is appeasing the Democrat party to garner more votes for Kerry.

Abortion is murder, and it's a SIN. How he can ignore that is a mystery to me. I'm sure God would like to know too.

5 posted on 09/11/2004 11:11:57 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.')
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Ratzinger did the right thing and McCarrick didn't disseminate the letter to the American bishops as he should have and gave false information to the press. McCarrick was a big Clinton supporter and sat on one of his commissions, so we all know where he stands. He sold his soul down the river for the democrat party.


6 posted on 09/11/2004 11:15:54 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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AMEN...I Agree with you. I also think John Kerry does NOT belong in the church since he is a supporter of abortion. You can't be a cafeteria Catholic and support abortion.
7 posted on 09/11/2004 11:23:56 AM PDT by BMC1
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AMEN...I Agree with you. I also think John Kerry does NOT belong in the church since he is a supporter of abortion. You can't be a cafeteria Catholic and support abortion.
8 posted on 09/11/2004 11:24:21 AM PDT by BMC1
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He sold his soul down the river for the democrat party.

He sure did. Not only that, but it's going to give Catholic women who want to get an abortion enough wiggle room to justify it.

9 posted on 09/11/2004 11:27:46 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.')
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Thanks for the note. I just found out the local parish is organizing a Pax Christi group. A friend went to the meeting and discovered this group is promoting abortion. To make matters worse the new pastor is going to pay the $150 membership fee out of parish funds for any parishoner who wishes to join.


10 posted on 09/11/2004 11:39:52 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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It's high time for Catholics to stand up on their hind legs and say that for certain issues we will not be the least bit tolerant. Totally intolerant of politicians who say "I'm personally against but the law is the law" and then go off and do everything they can to vote pro-abortion.

To those that keep telling me that we have a loving God and that he'll cut slack for those confused pro-abort souls....I'd like to remind them of how God handled Saul who stood by and cheered on those stoning Stephen (our Church's first martyr). He knocked Saul off his horse/donkey/whatever and blinded him...asking in a not so gentle way...why are you doing this? Saul woke up and repented. From then on he was known as the apostle Paul. Read Paul's epistles....he's NEVER tolerant.

When it comes to abortion and euthanasia.....don't even think of being tolerant!!
11 posted on 09/11/2004 11:50:14 AM PDT by Russ7
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Such a shame. I am glad I am at a church that is on more solid footing.


12 posted on 09/11/2004 11:57:52 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: Coleus

The situation is worse than Catholics simply misunderstanding Church teaching. Many simply don't care.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 12:32:10 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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You only read the headline, right?


15 posted on 09/11/2004 2:37:59 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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You only read the headline, right?

No.

16 posted on 09/11/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.')
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So if faced with two pro-abort candidates, you're permitted to hold your nose and cast a vote for one who's the less of the two evils?

That is my reading, anyway and being in California this isn't an uncommon situation.

This suggests California Catholics should've voted for McClintock, for example, not Arnold over Grey.

17 posted on 09/11/2004 5:32:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Why are we in Iraq? Just point the whiners here: http://www.massgraves.info)
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I can't believe this would even be a question.


18 posted on 09/11/2004 7:07:53 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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Here's a question...if the Pope came out and said abortion was ok, would you be for it?


19 posted on 09/11/2004 7:09:01 PM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Not if someone makes a lot of trouble about it.


20 posted on 09/12/2004 2:57:08 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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