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1 posted on 09/11/2004 4:02:23 PM PDT by freedom44
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Oh, I thought this was a story on the Democrats' implosion.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 4:05:33 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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But Islam will surely lose its credibility as a great religion

Uhhhh a little late wouldn't you say. This murderous cult has world domination as its' creed.

3 posted on 09/11/2004 4:05:57 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: freedom44

So how does this address Beslan?


4 posted on 09/11/2004 4:10:05 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: freedom44

So how does this address Beslan?


5 posted on 09/11/2004 4:10:05 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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And while the jihadists have won successes in lesser form — the train bombings in Spain that unseated a government, hostage-taking dramas in Iraq that forced minor players from the global antiterror team, and Iran's successful effort to sow divisiveness in the West about its nuclear ambitions while harboring much of al Qaeda's senior leadership — the fact remains that they have not been able to execute a spectacular strike in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

Have not been able to or have not attempted to?

There are plenty of radical Muslim clerics all throughout Europe and quite possibly in North America as well. The millions-strong Muslim diaspora gives them a fresh supply of recruits and support.

Maybe not one in a hundred Muslims are violent. Maybe not one in a hundred communists were agents of the Soviet Communist Party. But in either case, the adherents to those philosophies were subscribing to ideologies which, played out to their practical and logical conclusions, proved deadly.

6 posted on 09/11/2004 4:20:30 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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That's right Americans, trust this muslim.

Keep repeating to yourselves:

The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse
The muslim extremist ideology is in collapse

You have nothing to fear, peace will soon be upon you.


7 posted on 09/11/2004 4:23:06 PM PDT by sarah_f (Until a nation has embraced Islam, it is legally considered a battlefield [Dar-ul-Harb].)
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""We Muslims ... have no legs to stand on anymore when those who proclaim our religion are willing to put a gun to a child's head, pull the trigger, and call it an act of martyrdom. Islam no longer carries a message of hope, only the indelible impressions of cruelty. Its purveyors are bankrupt of ideas that inspire, and have failed in an ideology that in its very heart today has become hypocritical. To top it all off, America's Muslims — whose freedom to craft and convey an opposition to the terrorist cancer is protected by the very people those terrorists seek to destroy, sit silent — stone cold silent."

That said it all...STONE COLD SILENT.

8 posted on 09/11/2004 4:27:03 PM PDT by dinok
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I respect Monsoor Ijaz, but please: if the incineration of 3,000 people in fiery explosions didn't turn "reasonable" Muslims against the terrorists, why should the murder of a tiny fraction of that be different?


9 posted on 09/11/2004 4:29:58 PM PDT by LS
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Too little too late. Talk is cheap. Stop the world wide slaughterings!


10 posted on 09/11/2004 4:30:38 PM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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Thanks for an excellent post! I always enjoy reading of hearing Ijaz's comments. Muslim or not he is a very intellegent man with insight into the muslim/arab world.

It's true he has been off on a few of his predictions but overall I believe he's been quite an asset.

I'm not swayed to believe the Beslan incident was THE turning point...we may have a way to go for that. It IS interesting however...and I think this was on another thread this afternoon...that Zawahiri and Zarqawi and maybe severl pothers may be fighting among themselves, struggling for control of what's left of AQ and radical islam.

prisoner6

11 posted on 09/11/2004 4:32:10 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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We Muslims (I am an American whose faith remains that of the humane and dignified Islam)

I'm still hoping for a formal schism in Islam, giving birth to a well-defined Westernized sect of the religion that embraces modernity and categorically renounces all violence.

I'm not holding my breath.

20 posted on 09/11/2004 5:52:18 PM PDT by nsc68
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Ask Russia about this....TWO Airliners Downed and a SCHOOL taken over by these BARBARIANS!! It doesn't sound like they are in collapse! Islamofacists SEEM to be the rule..NOT the Exception!


22 posted on 09/11/2004 5:58:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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So whatever happend to Monsoor Ijaz's testimony for the 911 Commission? Does anyone know if it was it ever released?


26 posted on 09/11/2004 7:38:04 PM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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Have Muslims renounced Dhimmi status?

Have Muslims renounced that all Infidels must be converted or die?


27 posted on 09/11/2004 8:14:06 PM PDT by Prost1 (Only Muslims should have Dhimmi status.)
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This is largely a function of the sacrifices made by our fallen heroes — the men and women of the U.S. armed forces, and their Coalition colleagues — in the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. Their courage and valor in conflict zones has battered the very thesis — that the enemy is too corrupt of mind, too decadent in spirit, and too weak of body to sustain the battle to victory —

I do believe that we made grave and costly errors in the 70s, 80s and 90s in our limp response to the terrorist actions --- I don't mean only the US, but the whole western world, from Munich on 'til 9/11... and even including President Bush administration's first statements to Putin and Israel regarding their terrorism problems.

28 posted on 09/11/2004 8:14:17 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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MONSOOR IJAZ =

Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33

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29 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:57 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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