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An Ex-Officer Now Believes Guard Memo Isn't Genuine (even NYT is going against CBS/Rather)
NY Times ^ | September 12, 2004 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL and JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 9/12/2004, 5:15:28 AM by Cableguy

former National Guard commander who CBS News said had helped convince it of the authenticity of documents raising new questions about President Bush's military service said on Saturday that he did not believe they were genuine.

The commander, Bobby Hodges, said in a telephone interview that network producers had never showed him the documents but had only read them to him over the phone days before they were featured Wednesday in a "60 Minutes" broadcast. After seeing the documents on Friday, Mr. Hodges said, he concluded that they were falsified.

Mr. Hodges, a former general who spoke to several news organizations this weekend, was just the latest person to challenge the authenticity of the documents, which CBS reported came from the personal files of Mr. Bush's former squadron commander at the Texas Air National Guard, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, who died 20 years ago.

The memos indicated that Mr. Bush had failed to take a physical "as ordered" and that Mr. Killian was being pressured to "sugarcoat" Mr. Bush's performance rating because Mr. Bush, whose father was then a Texas congressman, was "talking to somebody upstairs."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbs; danrather; mediaelectioneering; rathergate; tang
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Read the whole thing. When it rains, it pours. Even NYT is now against CBS. When will Rather give up? Anyone taking bets?
1 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:15:30 AM by Cableguy
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2 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:16:18 AM by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make the dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: Cableguy

Increasingly the consensus is that the memos are fake and now the 'story' is 'how can CBS defend it?'

Perfect.


3 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:16:32 AM by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Cableguy
It's not because they care about the truth - all the Slimes cares about is they can p*ss on GungaDan & SeeBS in long-going feud between the really old media (newspapers) and old media (tv/radio).
4 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:17:35 AM by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it.......up.")
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To: Cableguy

If you're a lib reporter and the Times turns on you, it's game over.


5 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:17:42 AM by nsc68
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To: HitmanNY

bump


6 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:18:08 AM by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Cableguy

I wonder how the item falls in the page numbers of the paper.


7 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:18:16 AM by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Cableguy

LOL, Dan needs to call his spaceship and say 'beam me up Scotty'!!



8 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:18:59 AM by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: Cableguy

You mean the nyslimes is getting it right?


9 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:19:18 AM by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Cableguy

CBS had the incredible reaction of saying they don't care what Hodges says now, they choose only to believe what they claim he said previously. CBS knows these copies came from the Kerry campaign and that is why they are stonewalling.


10 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:19:46 AM by Williams
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To: Cableguy

Yeah, but in true campaign hit piece form, they have to report the negative so it gets heard as much as possible; however, in this instance, I don't think it will hurt Bush much just like it didn't hurt Clinton or Bush in his other elections. On the other issue...yes, it is getting bad for CBS when one of their on collaberators for the Wed onslaught is jumping ship. Amazing how many news orgs reported the exact same thing on the same day. I hope CBS continues to suffer tremendously !


11 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:20:19 AM by madison46 (Bandwagon was full when it left the gate - I hope it remains too full for frogs & co.)
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To: Cableguy

Dan Blather & CBS down for the count. Hehehehe!


12 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:21:02 AM by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Cableguy
CBS's unrevealed source of their Faux Docs are most certainly an anti-Bush 527 or Team Kerry source.

Since the (D)'s new talking points are:
1) CBS has faux docs, and Kerry has faux medals, ergo, SwiftVets are faux too (that's a quantum leap)
2) Everybody is slinging mud, so believe nothing (esp. the SwiftVets)
3) The subject on top of the heap is W's Tex ANG and not 85% of Kerry's fellow sailors who despise him.

This tactic will work best with their own base, for whom it is targeted, since the SwiftVets have eroded a noticeable chunk off of Kerry's base.

13 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:23:04 AM by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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To: lilylangtree
Dan Blather & CBS down for the count.

Don't ya mean Dan Blather & the DNCBS

14 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:25:04 AM by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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To: Cableguy
"Anyone taking bets?

Current Vegas line on Rather's resignation date is 5-3 by 6/30/05, 5-2 by 12/31/04, and 3-1 by 10/31/04. I like the 12/31/04 odds and I might put a few bucks on that date.

15 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:25:05 AM by carl in alaska (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: Williams
CBS knows these copies came from the Kerry campaign and that is why they are stonewalling.

But where in Senator Kerry's campaign organization? And did Senator Kerry personally approve of pulling off this hoax? These questions are very troubling because if we find out that a high-ranking official in the Kerry campaign concocted this stunt and/or Kerry personally approved it, it will essentially finish off the Kerry's chances in no time flat.

Mind you, it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people, though.

16 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:25:25 AM by RayChuang88
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To: Cableguy

BTTT


17 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:25:56 AM by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Cableguy

I checked the NYT site - that was the ONLY thing relating to the TANG 'story'. The grey lady has scuttled it!


18 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:26:14 AM by DaveMSmith (Truth and liberty: The Battle Hymn of Free Republic)
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To: RayChuang88

I am furious with CBS. NOt only are they liars, but when I called their various offices they were rude. I see no reason to ever watch that station again.


19 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:27:53 AM by Merry
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To: carl in alaska

If I have to camp out in front of BlackRock with a signboard, I don't want to see Dan Rather broadcast on election night.


20 posted on 9/12/2004, 5:29:18 AM by DaveMSmith (Truth and liberty: The Battle Hymn of Free Republic)
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