Posted on 09/12/2004 3:35:04 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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Could not agree more!
I fear for the life my grandchildren will face in America.
Hit the nail on the head. It is past time for us to wake up and smell the BS. Prepare for the worst and plan to fight to the death.
bttt
Great Post. I have believe this for a number of years. A good read is Dave Hunts a "Cup of Trembling". He tells it like it really is.
Great post .
I'll read this later. You don't need to use bold-face when you're using a large font. It's more difficult to read bold-face and your large font made your point just fine.
If only the moderate muslims, en masse, had stepped up to the plate after 9-11 and condemned the fanatic extremists. If only....but, there was only cheering in the middle east and silence from them in the west.
If there is another 9-11 in the USA....we will go to martial law and mass deportation... regardless of the ACLU. The citizenry must be protected.
You said a lot, all of it true and well worth reading, but that bold font is hard on the eyes. Perhaps next time, you might just use normal font and paragraphs?
There's more than one way to skin this Islamic cat. Declaring all out war on Islam makes it harder to pick off the real bad guys...the ones who pose a clear and present danger. It's like poking a stick in a hornet nest. If you can sneak up on them at nightfall and not get stung, isn't that better? Deception can be your friend, and GW is a pretty good poker player. So rather than take on the whole crowd at once, we're giving those who'll listen a chance to change. That's what Iraq is partially about. The rest is geography, to box in the rest of the axis of evil.
There are times when it's almost beyond bearing to hear or see the latest Muslim atrocity, but we have to be smarter than they are and focus on the objective. We isolate countries that fuel this war, put them out of business one way or another, and without support, Muslim maniacs have nowhere to go, nowhere to train, live, or survive. But if we let emotion determine our actions, we're doing just what Islamofascists want, and it's a good way to lose. That said, I'm with you all the way. But we hold all the cards, remember. Why give this scum even the slightest advantage?
Good show
As long as George W. Bush is reelected in November, then we have a chance. The current policy is to kill those Islamists who we want to kill, and get those Muslims who don't want to be killed to help us.
If John F'n Kerry gets elected, we will surely all die.
But I do agree that Islam is mired in the 7th century.
Isn't this the type of appeasement we accuse other countries of practicing?
Your Infidel wish is my desire... but if I was a Muzzle-em your head would likely be rolling around on the floor !!! ;-))
ISLAM IS KILLING US !!!
What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 people. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely Nothing !!!
Among the many unlearned lessons of the Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II, the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the NATURE of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or any other such weasel words – but just Islam. Period, end of argument !!!
Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Muslims, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Muslim countries and supported financially by the so called pious Muslim leadership of Saudi Arabia !!!
The overwhelming majority of Muslim religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated wildly in the streets !!!
September 11, 2002 was merely one more chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan, deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women who were trying to shield their children !!!
Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, hundreds of parents and children are murdered in a Russian school, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but The Entire World -- and the beat goes on, and on, and on !!!
Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as the Third World and much of the First World slowly turns Islamic Green... well soaked with Red inocent blood !!!
Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absolute absurdity that "Islam Is A Religion Of Peace" – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by a few misguided fanatics. Bovine Feces, George !!!
Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Muslim nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. Good grief... we surely would NOT want to "offeeeeeennnnnd" these dear and loving friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcher-based, dark ages, moon god murder cult !!!
Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca !!!
This Works With Every Religion Except Islam !!!
Consider the following: Of the three major western religions one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (yes, it's in the Koran) !!!
The essence of Mohammed's message is sick and thoroughly disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) "for the glory of Allah." He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies, before they suddenly beheaded them !!!
For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death -- and this murder cult method is still in practice today !!!
Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. But the evil committed in the name of the murder cult prophet is going on right now, even as you read these words !!!
Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Muslims versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, "Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order," Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s "bloody borders" therein !!!
There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 firm breasted virgins and 12 beautiful young boys waiting for him in Islamic paradise after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people and property, no Southern Baptist beheaders, and no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths !!!
Islam is a religion of war and warriors – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and the haters of all stripes. This is the main reason why Islam is making so many converts among the formerly peaceable denizens of our prison system !!!
Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Muslim groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Muslims. Our universities take CAREFULLY SELECTED verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Muslim character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster !!!
This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine fellows – your friends and neighbors.” Yeah... sure !!!
For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more !!!
Due to Muslim immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Muslim populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines !!!
Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths as it invades the local population !!!
We currently see this happening... right now... today,,, in Hamtramk, Michigan... where the ignorant city councel has purposely given Muslims permission to pollute the entire city with high-powered loud speaker screechings from the top of their mosques, from morning to night, six times a day, seven days a week, as they scream Muslim chants to glorify their pagan moon god Allah, and his child molesting, head chopping prophet, Mohammud. And the ACLU backs them 100%, threatening to sue anyone who dares to complain !!!
Yes, yes... the ACLU... the American Civil Liberties Union... but in reality it's the Arabic Communist Lucifer Union, championing their "cleave unto" plan of action against Judeo-Christian America. And then they further defend it by saying... "Hey, it's no different then when you disgustingly filthy, pig fat polluted, less than human Infidels ring your damned evil church bells on Sunday morning." !!!
So am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Muslims? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins???
Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan, Nigeria and Russia... but ALL OF US. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will "hang" together, or surely we shall all "hang" separately (swap "be beheaded" for "hang" to properly update Mr. Franklin) !!!
Hey... Infidel... have you loved a Muzzle-em today ???
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When the enemy comes in like a flood, a standard shall be thrown up against him. We need to be praying HARD right now that this standard will be thrown up, because we need more than natural means to defeat this enemy. - Yes, it is serious business.
We all need to take a time out and attend muslim sensitivity training. (my ass) it's time to deport and get them out of our country. Have you hugged a mooseleem today? No!! But I ran over one with my pickup truck. This message was approved by the, Good Ole' Boys Inc. Bush/ Cheney 2004
No, there was cheering in the West, too.
My brother-in-law is a retired Newark detective.
On 911, most northern NJ towns sent their active duty policemen to New York to assist, so they activated their off-duty and retired policemen to cover their own localities.
My brother-in-law had to patrol Newark, where he saw the Muslims dancing with abandon in the street in riotous celebration.
His buddies in Patterson saw the Muslims celebrating wildly there.
But I do agree that Islam is mired in the 7th century.
I rattle and slash with mere paper promenading exclamation excursives... they rattle and slash with throat cutters !!!
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Wow a screamer. Susan Estrich has nothing on you.
Islam should be defined as a subversive organization, perhaps a criminal enterprise, and treated accordingly.
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We cannot move into Muslim countries such as we have in Kosovo and Iraq and antagonize the population by promises of freedom and democracy without causing an upheaval. Freedom and democracy are alien to Muslim teachings. Military leaders on the ground have estimated that violent opposition has increased four-fold in Iraq in the past year. How are we countering that? By staying longer and letting it increase eight-fold? This is stupid. How many terrorists have we allowed to infiltrate our country by our lack of border security?
You do not antagonize the enemy and drop your guard if you expect to win. You lay in wait for the enemy to expose himself and you hit him hard. We are doing the opposite, we expose ourselves and let him hit us hard. Another fact that has to be realized, is there are passive Muslims in a proportion similar to the number of passive Christians. By bombing the passive Muslim population, you activate them the same as 9/11 did to our passive population. We have to defend ourselves but we do not have to take on the impossible job of policing the entire world.
We made a smart move by punishing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan but we made a dumb move by exposing ourselves in Iraq. The theory that we are defending ourselves by engaging terrorists overseas without guarding our borders here is nonsense. Any military commander will defend his perimeter so he has a force that is able to attack when the time comes to do so.
join my 10% tax on all muslims to pay for world terrorism movement!
Can you please direct me to this article?
The influential Washington-based Center for Security Police recently unveiled a groundbreaking report entitled, "Terrorism Investments of the 50 States." This report analyzes the investment portfolios of America's leading public pension funds. The key finding of the report is that America's 87 largest and most influential pension systems invest some $200 billion in companies that provide revenues, advanced technology, equipment and moral cover to governments that enable terrorism. (This detailed report and related materials can be obtained at www.DivestTerror.org.)
To be sure, there is nothing illegal about investing in any of the roughly 400 companies that partner with our enemies' friends. Nor is it illegal for such companies to do business with terrorist-sponsoring regimes. Whether the law prohibits such activities or not, however, we believe most Americans will agree with us that they are wrong â?" wrong morally, wrong strategically and wrong financially.
Consequently, DivestTerror.org offers a "how-to" manual showing ways in which investors, taxpayers and other citizens can bring pressure to bear to convert this $200 billion investment into leverage that can be used to help defeat terrorism. Reduced to its essence, the idea is this: By divesting the stock of these companies, public pension systems, university endowments and even individual investors can send a powerful message to the companies that provide life-support to many of the planet's most dangerous regimes. You can choose to continue to partner with rogue state regimes that aid and abet terrorism. Or you can do business with American investors and capital markets. But you can no longer do both.
As the DivestTerror.org website makes clear, divestment campaigns have already proven to be highly effective instruments. In fact, over the last twenty years, institutional and private investors have repeatedly used their financial leverage to initiate social change. For instance, these efforts have been used to bring pressure on stocks of companies involved in tobacco, alcohol, gambling, guns and environmentally insensitive behavior. Arguably, the best-known example to date was the shareholder activism that used divestment to force the apartheid government of South Africa to abandon its heinous apartheid policy. Subsequently, that government was forced to surrender power.
By applying this model to companies doing business in terrorist-sponsoring states, we hope to achieve a success no less momentous than that accomplished in South Africa. All it will take is for Americans like you to feel empowered to play a role in the war on terror, to make known your views against investment in terrorist-sponsoring states and to use tools like those provided by DivestTerror.org to target and maximize the effectiveness of your activism. Please visit this informative and useful site and to join in the campaign it is now waging to defeat those who threaten not only our lives, but those of our children and grandchildren, as well.
Oh come on. European nations used Christianity to justify the conquest and enslavement of millions during the colonial era and before. Christianity was used to justify the perpetuation of slavery in the US for 2 centuries. But the practice of Christianity became more enlightened and less barbarous.
You are right to condemn Islamic radicals and terrorists, but trying to criminalize all muslims because of the excesses of some is like trying to condemn all Catholics because of the anti-semitic progroms that were once practiced by many Catholics.
If terrible acts of barbarism can be carried out in the name of Christ - and they have been - without diminishing the value of Christ's message, then the same is true of other religions. It is the failing of men, not the religion, that is the source of terrorism. Islam is just the conduit used to channel human hatreds and ambitions.
Have you forgotton that simply denying the holy trinity and the authority of the Roman Catholic Church was once punished by death? That "heretics" and accused witches were once burned at the stake throughout Western Europe? That adulterers were once stoned on the authority of the Church? That was where Christianity used to be. Sounds a lot like where Islam is now.
Good post!
At least he had paragraphs.
I believe every word of it, but what can we do now to put the brakes on this madness?
BTTT
Contact your legislators and demand that Islam be recognized as a terrorist organization!!!! When they get thousands of letters demanding this, they can't ignore it and cannot keep being politically correct.
You cannot defeat the enemy until you identify the enemy.
Islam IS the problem. It is our job to fix it!!! Our government is laying down on the job...or maybe they are really kneeling on a prayer rug facing Mecca!
Islam is evil, and has killed everything it's touched for over a thousand years. Islam is a disease; a cancer on the butt of life. It's practitioners are mindless adherents to murder, terror, boy-buggering, women-chattelling, and many unspeakable horrors. Islam and its followers must be excised, like the cancer they are, and destroyed.
Oh yeah? Well... if that's the way you see it, who am I to argue au contraire? But the way I see it, I have only a few puny fonts as weapons... while Susan has a mouth as big as a... umm... a mouth as big as a... err... as big as a... DAMMIT! I can't think of anything that's as big as Susan Estrich's M O U T H !!! ;-))
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Well... there's an old Bing Crosby song that comes to mind...
You've got to Ac-Cen-Tuate the Positive... E-Lim-Inate the Negative... Latch On to the Affirmative... Don't Mess with Mr.In-Between !!! ;-))
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This is blatantly false. Most of us are not taught that it doesn't matter which religion.
Most of us are Christians. And Christians are taught that you must have Jesus for salvation. There is no other way. Any so-called Christian who beliefs otherwise, has not studied the Christian scriptures.
What we are taught is that we don't want someone telling us how to believe or worship God and therefore we should be respectful of other's rights. That people have a God given freedom of choice about their beliefs, even to the point of rejecting Him. And that people can reject Jesus if they choose to, but unless they violate some civil law, it is not our place to punish them for wrong beliefs. As long as they aren't violating anyone else's rights, that's between them and God.
We are also taught that God loved us while we were yet sinners. That God desires all men to come to a saving faith in the Lord Jesus.
And that is why we approach Islam as we do. We don't nuke Islamic lands, despite the fact that Islam is a threat to us. Instead we surgically destroy the most militant of Islam at risk to ourselves. And we attempt to teach about democracy and basic human rights, in hopes that the less militant Muslims will come to see the light, not just about Freedom and Human Rights but about Jesus.
Oak Hay, Lady Jag... How do we apply your "before" and "after" thingy in a manner that will cause the murdering Muzzle-ems to totally disintegrate???
It's true that Christianity has seen some dark days. Things were done out of wrong motives and greed that ignored the scriptures and gave Christianity a black eye.
It's wrong to think that Christianity started out that way and evolved. It did not. It started out pure and degraded and then once people started holding each other accountable which scripture calls for, some purity was restored.
Islam did not start out pure. Islam was started by a man who wanted to be a prophet and was not called to be a prophet. Jews and Christians were immediately able to recognize the man as a false prophet because he failed the tests of a prophet that Moses had laid down. And the Jews and Christians laughed at him. Thus Mohammed hated Jews and Christians and started his own religion. It denied the divinty of Jesus and it denied one of the basic callings of Judaism, to love your neighbor as yourself.
Islam is an evil religion. Not because some of it's followers become suicide murderers, for many do not. It is evil because it teaches men to try to reach heaven on their own merits, instead of accepting the salvation that God offers through Jesus. It condemns it's followers to Hell.
Christians however, are told to "overcome evil with good"..."to pray for those who would do evil to us"..."to love our enemies". We are not called to turn the other cheek in the face of evil that would destroy us. We have the right and duty to defend ourselves and our people.
But this calling to overcome evil with good, is why we do not practice genocide. It's why we surgically try to remove only the immediate militant threat. Even though such tepid response puts ourselves in harms way.
The only way to get green glass is high heat, preferably hot heat with a short half-life.
They want to die. By attacking everyone else, they are begging the whole rest of earth to put them out of their misery yet we continue to let them suffer.
They use themselves as detonators. We need to help give them peace in death. It's what they want.
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