THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN (made up by Boxer catalog shopping)

Neal Nuze ^ | 9/13/04 | Neal Boortz

[NotchJohnson]

Do you notice the media panic? The assault weapons ban expires at midnight tonight! By tomorrow morning our streets will be packed with roving gangs carrying machine guns.

Two things. First ... these so-called "assault weapons" have played a very minor role in the American crime picture over the years. There were a few incidents in California involving some rather ugly semi-automatic weapons and Barbara Boxer went nuts. And that brings us to our second point. Do you know how the various weapons listed in the soon-to-expire ban were chosen? Barbara Boxer and some staffers got their hands on a weapons catalogue and decided which weapons looked the most dangerous. These were the weapons ultimately banned. The decision was based on cosmetics.

Legislation written the way this law was written deserves to die.

[NotchJohnson]

Great title for a law that you want. I'd like to see how that should just be driving her Cadillac spending her husbands money bridge playing old had turned congresswoman in charge of natioanl security reacted. neil says she went nuts. She should be reading Ann Landers and going to Red Hat Society meetings instead of having a political voice.

[Piquaboy]

I suppose that there are people out there who do not know the difference between a SEMI-automatic and a automatic firearm.

[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

Barbara Boxer and some staffers got their hands on a weapons catalogue and decided which weapons looked the most dangerous.

Sounds like the EXACT SAME WAY the media "analyzes" Bush's National Guard records. Every time they show it to an "expert", the "expert" says "boy, this is damning stuff."

However, when they show (authentic) documents to someone who was actually in the National Guard, they say "everything appears to be in order".

[Casloy]

Barbara Boxer went nuts

She was born nuts.

[.38sw]

Ms. Boxer is driving a Porsche Boxter these days. Isn't that the cleverest thing? I also hear she wears fur - actual fur harvested from dead animals. What a phony she is.

I believe the story about Boxer and her buddies looking in a weapons catalog for what should be banned. It is clear to anyone who knows anything about firearms that it is purely a cosmetic ban. Ugly black guns. *shudder* They are clearly more dangerous that the other kind! Right?

Unfortunately, Boxer will most likely be in the Senate for another six years.

[TSgt]

Educate me. My understanding is that you must have a FFL to own a fully automatic weapon? Is this correct?

My understanding of the ban is that it is total nonsense anyway because no guns were actually banned, just features of guns.

Buying my first AR-15 soon :)

[NavyCanDo]

DEAR SANTA
Please bring me one Colt AR-15 for Christmas.
And for my son, one Red Rider BB Gun. I promise neither of us will shoot our eye out.


I bought an AR-15 from my ships Gun Club when I was in the Navy (price in 1980 $440). Ten years ago I sold it to help pay for my Wifes wedding ring. Dang! I
miss that weapon.

[uncbob]

My understanding of the ban is that it is total nonsense anyway because no guns were actually banned, just features of guns. Buying my first AR-15 soon :)

Yep

I bought my AR15 AFTER the so called ban

It doesn't have a flash suppresor or bayonet lug

[556x45]

If you have a clean record and enough money you can own an NFA weapon. The hitch is they can no longer be mfg for us little people....only LE and the military can have new ones. So, that makes them expensive for you and I b/c theres a fixed supply but an ever growing demand. Also, if you opt for an NFA weapon you must ask permission of the ATF before moving it across state lines.

Yes, the ban was useless as it did nothing to its stated purpose (curb crime).

[WorkingClassFilth]

I, too, learned the same bitter lesson as you a long, long time ago. Nowadays, I advise: never - ever - sell a firearm or tool. You can give them as gifts (to very special people) but selling them reduces them to common articles of exchange. Next time you're short of cash, ask the wife if she would sell her ring...

[TigersEye]

My understanding is that you must have a FFL to own a fully automatic weapon? Is this correct?

That is true and has been since the National Firearms Act of 1934 which also regulated (not banned) sawed off shotguns and silencers which may also be legally owned by paying the $200 tax (per item) and submitting to an FBI background check.

The now defunct (and forever reprehensible) AWB had nothing whatsoever to do with fully automatic arms. (machine guns) Furthermore, it outlawed the import of certain semi-automatic rifles which could be legally purchased if manufactured in the U.S.. In addition to that some foreign "assault rifles" were legal to import, own and accessorize while others weren't. Such as Chinese made SKS = BAD! Russian made SKS = OK. On top of that the ban made the combination of certain things illegal like folding stocks, high cap. magazines, bayonet lug (or maybe putting on the bayonet) and flash suppressors. (Muzzle brakes were ok even though they look and act a lot like flash suppressors)

Confused? So am I. I'm not sure everything I just said is 100% correct and in ten years not the entire firearms loving community nor the BATFE itself could definitively explain this law.

[flashbunny]

You do not need a FFL to own a full auto / select fire produced before 1986. All you need is:

1. To live in a state were ownership is allowed\
2. Signoff from the chief local law enforcement officer (sheriff, DA, etc, whatever the BATF will accept.
2B. If you own a corporation and buy the item through the corporation, signoff isn't necessary.
3. You need to send the BATF $200 and all forms, and wait a couple of months for them to get back to you.

To own a post 86 MG you need to be a properly licensed FFL (there are different classes) or a properly licensed manufacturer (again, different classes).

[TigersEye]

Thank you. I did confuse a FFL with the tax/permit/background check.