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Rapes in Beslan: in Muhammed's Footsteps
Chronicles Magazine ^ | 13 September 2004 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:35 AM PDT by MegaSilver

The media in the United States have been oddly fastidious in failing to report one aspect of last week’s horror in Beslan: that several Russian girls were raped by Muslim terrorists in front of their parents and classmates. The failure to report rapes in the Russian school was at odds with the eagerness of American journalists, a decade ago, to report ad nauseam on the entirely fictitious "rape camps" supposedly run by Bosnian Serbs in which Muslim women were allegedly subjected to similar degradation.

That Muslim propagandists and their Western abettors should have resorted to this particular whopper is especially galling in view of Islam’s encouragement of violence against women in general, and its explicit blessing of rape of captive non-Muslim women by Muslims in particular. The behavior of Chechen terrorists in Beslan, disgusting in every gory detail by the standards of civilized humanity, was justified by the tenets of Islam and by the personal example of the cult’s inventor, Muhammad.

Having established himself as the ruler of Medina, Muhammad attacked the Jewish tribe of Banu-‘l-Mustaliq in December of A.D. 626. His followers slaughtered many Jewish tribesmen and looted thousands of their camels and sheep. They also kidnapped 500 of their women. The night after the battle Muhammad and his brigands staged an orgy of rape. As one of the brigands, Abu Sa’id Khudri, later remembered, a legal problem needed to be resolved first: In order to obtain ransom from the surviving Jews for the captive women, Muslims had pledged not to violate them:

We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the Azl [coitus interruptus]. We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation not to do it like that."

Having ethnically cleansed and robbed of property all but one of three Jewish clans in Medina, in A.D. 627 Muhammad decided to deal with the last, Banu Qurayzah. He offered the men conversion as an alternative to death. Upon their unsurprising refusal, some 900—exact numbers are unknown—were decapitated, one by one, in a ditch surrounding their encampment, in front of their women and children. Muhammad’s Einsatzgruppen worked hard: Torches had to be lit so that the slaughter could be accomplished in one day. The women, thus widowed or orphaned, were raped that same night. Muhammad chose as his concubine one Raihana bint Amr, whose father and husband were both slaughtered before her eyes only hours earlier. (Such treatment of the victims had been duly sanctioned by a prophetic revelation in the Kuran.)

In his early years, as a powerless and often ridiculed outsider in Mecca, Muhammad had enumerated the series of temptations which could enslave human beings: The passion for women, the desire for male children, the thirst for gold and silver, spirited horses, and the possession of cattle and land (Kuran, 3:12). Once enthroned in Medina as the head of a theocratic statelet, he wanted to possess them all. Muhammad freely admitted that two things in the world, women and perfume, attracted him—so much so that he departed from his own laws in pursuit of both. Contrary to his own regulations he had at least 15 wives (some sources claim up to 25). The youngest was Aisha, who was seven years old when Muhammad—44 years her senior—"married" her. Two years later, 53-year-old Muhammad consummated this liaison and raped the girl of nine left under his control.

The sordid story of Muhammad’s "marriage" to Aisha reflected a mind-set and a lifestyle. Rape of enslaved women came naturally to Muhammad. A Christian slave woman by the name of Maryah aroused his passion for nights on end, which provoked a rebellion in his harem. Divine assistance was, in the end, needed to restore order in the household, with the Kuranic verse duly advising Muhammad not to restrain himself from "that which Allah has made lawful" (66:1–3).

Even more scandalous was the case of Zeinab, the wife of Zayd, Muhammad’s adopted son. Lusting after her, Muhammad ordered Zayd to divorce her and took Zeinab as yet another wife. The deal was soon sanctioned by another revelation from Allah: "there should not be any fault in the believers, touching the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished what they would of them" (36:37).

These examples indicate that the status of women in Islam is comparable to that of the human rights in Cuba: theoretically exalted, deplorable in practice. The sources of true Islam—the Kuran and Hadith—provide the basis for theory and subsequent Shari’a practice regarding the role of women. When a judge in Pakistan recently sentenced a young woman to death for "adultery" by stoning after she had been raped by her husband’s brother, he had merely followed the Kuranic law. The fact the woman, Zafran Bibi, was raped was of no consequence: She was still guilty of "having intercourse outside of marriage."

Violence against women is also condoned, even mandated, in Islam. Allah mandates that the disobedient wives are to be beaten (4:34). As the authoritative Azhar University scholars in Cairo explain, "the Qur’an bestows on man the right to straighten her out by way of punishment and beating, provided he does not break her bones nor shed blood." Physical violence against one’s wife is divinely ordained and practically advised in Islam. In Muhammad’s rendering of the story of the righteous Job, Allah ordered him to beat his wife: "Take in thine hand a branch and smite therewith and break not thine oath" (38:44).

Some Muslim apologists claim that the Islamic teaching and practice is in line with the findings of clinical psychology. Beating is beneficial to them, we are told, because "women’s rebelliousness (nushuz) is a medical condition" based either on her masochistic delight in being beaten and tortured or sadistic desire to hurt and dominate her husband. Either way,

beating is her remedy. So the Qur’anic command: ‘banish them to their couches, and beat them’ agrees with the latest psychological findings in understanding the rebellious woman. This is one of the scientific miracles of the Qur’an, because it sums up volumes of the science of psychology about rebellious women (The Australian Minaret, Australian Federation of the Islamic Councils, November 1980, p.10).

Islam stands or falls with the person of Muhammad, a flawed man by the standards of his own society, as well as those of the Old and New Testaments (both of which he acknowledged as divine revelation). He was flawed even by his new law, of which he claimed to be the divinely appointed medium and custodian. The horror unleashed by Chechen terrorists on Russian children in Beslan, and the rape of adolescent girls in particular, is the fruit of Muhammad’s example.

The problem of Islam, and the problem of the rest of the world with Islam, is in its claim that the words and acts of Muhammad provide the universally valid standard of morality and behavior for all time. Islam, in Muhammad’s texts and its codification, discriminates against women. It is extremely offensive. Those who submit to that faith must solve the problem they set themselves. Islam further discriminates against all "unbelievers." Until the petrodollars support a Kuranic revisionism that does not, we must go for it with whips and scorpions, hammer and tongs.


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1 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:37 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver

Spread of Christianity BAD, Rape by Muslims good.


2 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:47 AM PDT by marty60
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To: MegaSilver

Clinton and the democrats murdered 3000 innocent Serb civilians in their support for the Balkan IslamoFascists. The Serbs have been on the front lines of civilization fighting Islam for a thousand years.


3 posted on 09/13/2004 8:02:06 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: MegaSilver

Not only did the animals who took over the school in Beslan rape children, they released a video documenting it. (Yes, it was IMMEDIATELY turned in to the webhost and to the federal authorities.)


4 posted on 09/13/2004 8:02:58 AM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: MegaSilver
Normal human beings should not have to share breathable air with these mutants. The world needs a complete "do-over" with the Islamofasicsts erased from its surface and its history!!
5 posted on 09/13/2004 8:03:58 AM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: marty60
Bump

Chronicles gets it right again.

6 posted on 09/13/2004 8:04:52 AM PDT by d-back
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To: MegaSilver; heartwood; Valin

Valin and heartwood, maybe you two dhimmis would like a little dose of reality!!!


7 posted on 09/13/2004 8:04:55 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: MegaSilver

Rape innocent young girls good, put women's panties on the heads of terrorists bad.


8 posted on 09/13/2004 8:05:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: MegaSilver
His followers slaughtered many Jewish tribesmen and looted thousands of their camels and sheep.

It's a good bet that they probably raped them too.

9 posted on 09/13/2004 8:06:26 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: MegaSilver

Bump. Common knowledge by any who read history of Muhammad. The Q'uran is, always has been and always will be a direct, manufactured fraud.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 8:08:22 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: txzman

Fraud indeed. That is the bottom line here.


11 posted on 09/13/2004 8:10:17 AM PDT by OK
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To: FormerACLUmember

Yes FR fought that battle too. It was hard with our young people over there. But, as usual FR was right. Fr pointed out THEN that The Dums were supporting the terrorists. But, no one listened. 4000 + dead and counting, now maybe people will listen.


12 posted on 09/13/2004 8:10:44 AM PDT by marty60
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To: MegaSilver

Accorting to the Greek media when this happened, the military recoverd the video tapes made of the rapes. The tapes were turned over to putin.

I hope the dose of reality helped.


13 posted on 09/13/2004 8:10:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: MegaSilver
This story being suppressed by the U. S. Media is just another nail in their coffin! Not reporting the raping of innocent Russian girls by the evil, fanatical islamic butchers is just another example of their cleansing of the news.

Too bad a complete sanitation of American Media can't be performed and it's likewise too bad that Americans with room-temperature IQs gobble the pap the majors feed them like so much pablum.

If the American people don't get properly incensed by what the news media is doing to our nation by not reporting the islamic evil, they'll live through a day and lifetime (albeit shortened)of pure hell when these evils are again perpetrated on U. S. soil.

Americans and Europeans actually believe there are good and bad muslims, not realizing that they suck up their scripture from the same un-holy koran written by a perverted child molester! It's difficult to believe that they actually pattern their lives after the words of the evil prophet found in his evil book.

Regardless of what our government, apparently too embarrassed to call the islamic situation as it truly is, mouths about the good muslims and the bad ones, Americans must be told the truth: there are no good muslims!

WIN THE WAR; RECOGNIZE THE ENEMY!

14 posted on 09/13/2004 8:12:15 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Coroner

Unlike you and people and those that think like you I have never said this kind of thing doesn't happen, and Islam doesen't have srrious problems. But unlike you I (and President Bush) do not condemn 1+ billion people for the acts of these scumbags.


"Anyone who judges by the group is a peawit. You take men one at a time."
Sgt. Killrain
"The Killer Angels" by Michael Shaara


15 posted on 09/13/2004 8:13:29 AM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: MegaSilver

And the author only touched briefly on the buggery of young servant boys which is okey dokey even today in Islam.


16 posted on 09/13/2004 8:16:43 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: MegaSilver

These evil Islamaniacs make Nazis look like kittens.


17 posted on 09/13/2004 8:20:29 AM PDT by Wonderama
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To: MegaSilver

This is beyond horrific.


18 posted on 09/13/2004 8:27:42 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Valin

"Peawit" -- a word I must add to my vocabulary.


19 posted on 09/13/2004 8:35:16 AM PDT by bboop
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To: MegaSilver
So what. Muhammad told his followers that it was perfectly OK to do the same. Hey these guys are just keeping up the traditions of the religion of peace.
20 posted on 09/13/2004 8:38:19 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: txzman
Bump. Common knowledge by any who read history of Muhammad. The Q'uran is, always has been and always will be a direct, manufactured fraud.

No Way! Dan Rather insists it's a religion of peace!
21 posted on 09/13/2004 8:39:49 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Bobby777; Robert_Paulson2; FITZ; dennisw; Grampa Dave; wardaddy; Yehuda

Mad Mo sure was one lucky prophet.

Every time he wanted to rape somebody else's wife or daughter, that old moon-god allah said, "Go for it Mo!"


22 posted on 09/13/2004 8:45:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Valin
Bush ( most of the world) is at WAR with these evil people. Bush tries to differ between sects. After Beslan, I don't think that is possible anymore. EVIL is EVIL. I billion evil followers does not a religion make.

" The army of the Beast is made up of diverse armies and united only by opposition to the good. The battle appears to be that of Armeggedon"

23 posted on 09/13/2004 8:48:08 AM PDT by marty60
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To: MegaSilver; KayEyeDoubleDee
We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation not to do it like that."

Please tell me this is a typo.

Do illiterate prophets really speak in double negatives?

24 posted on 09/13/2004 8:55:07 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

No, it's the religion of 'a peace.'


25 posted on 09/13/2004 8:55:42 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: txzman

Absolutely dead-on. I have a christian friend from Lebanon who speaks Arabic who has told me that the English translation of the Koran does not do justice to it's true meaning. He is convinced that this book is inspired by satan. While that may be an expression of his fanciful musings, I dunno. Sounds about right, especially when you hear of the passages as mentioned here, whether they translate the idioms correctly or not.

Whatever the case, I come down on the side of those who say that this so-called religion is evil, and it's adherents need our prayers and pity. They follow a false prophet to their doom, either here or in the next world.

teresa


26 posted on 09/13/2004 8:57:37 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: marty60

Chechen leaders’ relatives say stop terrorism, punish massacre perpetrators
AsiaNews.it ^ | September 7, 2004 | Staff


Posted on 09/09/2004 10:26:08 PM CDT by Luis Gonzalez

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1211655/posts?page=19

Moscow (AsiaNews) – Events in Beslan have had an unusual and unexpected impact in Chechnya. The local population, which had largely backed the actions by Chechen terrorists, seems to have turned against them. Separatists’ families, including those of anti-Russian resistance leaders such as Maskhadov, Basayev, Umarov –who are thought to have orchestrated the Beslan attack– have publicly condemned the actions of their relatives.

Pamzan and Ruslan Maskhadov, cousins of former Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov called on him to end terrorism. “Today, life is back to normal in the Chechen Republic. It is possible to work and receive a salary,” the two brothers said. “Consequently, the reasons for terror are neither present nor justified.” They urged Mashkadov to put an end to his actions once and for all and stop the gangs “who have killed hundreds of innocent children.” They also asked Ossetians for forgiveness.

Zholzan Abdulkadyrova, Aslan Maskhadov’s sister, appealed to her brother telling him to stop the crimes against helpless people. In the early phase of the Beslan crisis, Ms Abdulkadyrova had offered herself as a hostage in place of the children held. “Chechens,” she said, “do not want to be the enemies either of Ossetians, Ingushs or Russians.”

Junus Kurazov, deputy mufti in Chechnya’s Vedensky district and husband to Shamil Basayev’s cousin, expressed his solidarity with the people of North Ossetia. “These child-killing gangsters are terrorists and should be punished. These people will never receive forgiveness for their sins; only Almighty Allah might do it.” He added that “terrorism has no national or ethnic colour. Whoever they are, no matter their nationality, ethnicity or religion, they should be punished.”
(snip)

Russian Muslims Rally Against Terror
IslamOnline.net ^ | Sept. 8, 2004


Posted on 09/09/2004 9:29:26 AM CDT by nuconvert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1210981/posts?page=9

Russian Muslims Rally Against Terror

By Damir Ahmad, IOL Correspondent

MOSCOW, September 8 (IslamOnline.net) – Up to 40,000 Russian Muslims took part Tuesday, September 7, in a nationwide rally in protest at the hostage-taking school tragedy in the southern city of Beslan that claimed the lives of hundreds of people, mostly children.

In Moscow, the anguished protesters stood still for a moment of silence on the Red Square in memory of the victims of Beslan and the two Russian airliners that crashed south of Moscow on August 25, killing 90 people aboard.

The demonstrators, who reached 15,000 people, waved banners reading: “Terror-free Russia”, “Real human beings do not target children”, “Keep your hands off our children” and “All Russians make it clear: We are against terrorism”.

The mass rally was called for by the Russian television Monday, September 6 and was organized by a pro-government trade union.

It came as the residents of grief-stricken Beslan held a third day of funerals for at last the 336 victims.

All but one of the 32 hostage-takers and at least 336 people, half of them children, died after Russian troops stormed the school Friday, September 3.

The Russian government has admitted that it lied to its people about the scale of the crisis.

‘Not Muslims’

The deputy chief of Russia’s Council of Muftis, Izzatullah Damir Hezrat, said the perpetrators of the “terrorist hostage-takers have nothing to do with Islam”.

“They are not Muslims at all, rather they are criminals,” Hezrat told the crowd massing at the Red Square.

“Those who killed innocent people, not to mention children, are doomed to the Hellfire. They wanted to spark a religious strife in the Caucasus. But their malicious schemes would prove futile as the entire Russian people stand united against terrorism.”

He said hundreds of Muslims representing their community in Russia performed funeral prayers Tuesday in solidarity with the victims’ families and leave the impression that they do feel for them.

“We will be missing you and always remember you in our prayers,” Hezrat added.

The Council of Muftis has already condemned the tragedy as “a terrorist act that Islam totally refuses and forbids”.

The religious council for North Caucasian Muslims said the hostage taking is “a heinous terrorist crime” that inflicted pain and suffering on families of the hostages.


27 posted on 09/13/2004 9:01:55 AM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: MegaSilver; KayEyeDoubleDee; SlickWillard
We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the Azl [coitus interruptus]. We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation not to do it like that."

Okay, let's try to think this through. If he were to say

You are obliged to not to do it like that
then he would be saying
You are obliged to not engage in coitus interruptus
which would be to say
You are obliged to not not ejaculate
i.e.
You are obliged to ejaculate
So if he says
You are not under any obligation not to do it like that
then he is saying
You are not under any obligation to ejaculate
Does this make sense to anyone?

PS: This is true of the Koran in general - with the exception of the clear and unequivocal instructions to murder the infidel, the document is just utter and complete nonsense.

28 posted on 09/13/2004 9:04:27 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: MegaSilver; All

NO ONE should ever be surprised by the media "love affair" with Islam. Only unknown to Islam, Muslims are the "useful idiots" of the left.

You see, without class and culture warfare, the Gramscian Communists in the media have NOTHING! There's nowhere left to go. So they MUST ignore these atrocities, if they didn't, their whole entire class and culture warfare would COLLAPSE!


29 posted on 09/13/2004 9:04:37 AM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: MegaSilver

The reason they do this is to "damage" women and make them less desirable to other men. If they get pregnant that's even better.

SICK!


30 posted on 09/13/2004 9:07:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SlickWillard

You read it correctly. Anything not prohibited is permitted. And not much is prohibited when it comes to infidels. So they'll quote to you the rules that apply to dealing with each other. And then knife you in the back when they feel like it.


31 posted on 09/13/2004 9:08:39 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: FormerACLUmember

watch what you say -- we may find the same to be true of another "madman" who was once a rule of some country called "iraq"

(i don't believe everything i say, just a thought)


32 posted on 09/13/2004 9:09:40 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: MegaSilver
Typical imperialist exaggerations. What about abu Ghraib? Huh? huh? huh?

Panties on head is a million times worse! < /sarcasm >

33 posted on 09/13/2004 9:10:22 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: MegaSilver; KayEyeDoubleDee; SlickWillard
Okay, let's try to think this through. If he were to say
You are obliged to not to do it like that
should read
Okay, let's try to think this through. If he were to say
You are obliged to not do it like that

34 posted on 09/13/2004 9:13:45 AM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: longtermmemmory

one could make a claim that, regardless of the numbers, the three days of true terror was much worse than what we experienced here on 9/11.

that possibility is what the media is covering up.


35 posted on 09/13/2004 9:14:45 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: wequalswinner
He is convinced that this book is inspired by satan.

A lot of us have been convinced of that, for very a long time. I have no doubt who it was inspired by.

36 posted on 09/13/2004 9:16:09 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: MegaSilver
Put every muslim male above the age of 6 to the sword.

It will eventually be the only way.

37 posted on 09/13/2004 9:18:17 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: longtermmemmory
Someone else a few day ago posted that when Putin went on TV to address his countrymen he looked badly shaken and almost in shock. They speculated he maybe had viewed those videos. I have to agree with that...I saw the news clip of him and he did indeed look just stunned.

Red

38 posted on 09/13/2004 9:20:12 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I love the 1st Amendment...Zell Miller can speak the truth.)
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To: Coroner

Do you think you are telling me something I don't know?


39 posted on 09/13/2004 9:24:49 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Centurion2000

I'm afraid you're spot on, C2000. Muslims will never change their murderous ways. Killing them wholesale is the only way to clean-up the collective mess that is Islam.


40 posted on 09/13/2004 9:28:37 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( Veni Vidi Vino Visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: MegaSilver; marty60
Spread of Christianity BAD, Rape by Muslims good.

Yes, sadly at the expense of real news, and they can't race to tell pound it into us fast enough. This line in the article says it all:

The media in the United States have been oddly fastidious in failing to report one aspect of last week’s horror in Beslan: that several Russian girls were raped by Muslim terrorists in front of their parents and classmates.

In their effort to make Islam look good and Christianity and everyone else look bad, they are failing to report news. Actual news. To the detriment of us all. They have become bloated with their own self-importance, much like the DNC, and in the fashion of the old soviets or other marxist/socialist state. They will decide what we need to know, they will tell us what we need to know it, when they decide we need to know it. Anything else is unsubstantiated rumor and we should quietly wait for their next directive.

Many of the so-called 'news' agencies have ceased being 'news' and are one giant op-ed, with only one opinion allowed.

41 posted on 09/13/2004 9:29:33 AM PDT by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune.)
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To: Valin

I don't think anybody is stating that all Muslims or even most Muslims would rape little children.

That is patently absurd.

But what is manifestly evident is the persistent pattern of outageously antisocial behavior by terrorist groups which are, for the most part, exclusively Muslim, the fact that the mass of Muslims do NOT condemn such activity, that an uncomfortable number of so-called Islamic clerics actually approve of and encourage such behavior, that the major media obivously glosses over these activities, and justification for committing them can be very easily found in Islamic foundation documents and the behaviour of Mohammad himself, who - although he lived in a far different time than today - demonstrated a personality radically different from that of Christ and of most major Israelite prophets and preachers.


42 posted on 09/13/2004 9:32:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: wequalswinner

Your friend is correct that there are sanitized translations of the Quran out there.

As a matter of fact in many countries the people only hear the Quran read in Arabic, which is a foreign language to them.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/


43 posted on 09/13/2004 9:33:20 AM PDT by OK
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To: JesseHousman

The pile of crap called the Koran was not written by the perverted, child molester. He couldn't read or write. It was compiled by his followers from scraps of conversation they wrote down. Little wonder it is such garbage.


44 posted on 09/13/2004 9:37:36 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: OK

Right! Fraud covered by the name of religion.

As I have said - if Muslims want to keep their religion - they will have to break off and create a new group with a new name. Terrorists and radicals have hijacked their religion for Satan's use.

To stay a Muslim means you consort with Satan's evil.

To stay a Muslim insults the god they worship. Why would any choose to do so?

It is not our responsibility to honor all Muslims' freedom of religion so that they can harbor evil. It is their responsibility to insure their religion is not taken over by those that would dishonor their god. They are failing miserably.

Would any of us remain in a religion denomination that harbored terrorist activity in the name of our Lord? It would be an affront to our Lord. Would any of us stay in a denomination that condoned murder, rape, beheadings? No, it would be an assault of what God wanted and He would condemn all. Evil of the devil has no place in God's religion and apparently Allah's if what regular Muslims claim is true.

Why would any normal Muslim allow the affront to the god they worshipped? Praying five times a day? Why not purify their ranks?


45 posted on 09/13/2004 9:40:00 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: SlickWillard

The slave rape thing comes from the Haddiths, rather than the Quran.

The Haddiths are where the true horror shines through. That is why you can go to any library and not find them there. Whenever one shows up in a public library, a Muslim checks it out and "forgets" to return it.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/


46 posted on 09/13/2004 9:41:35 AM PDT by OK
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To: FormerACLUmember; MegaSilver

<< Clinton and the democrats murdered 3000 innocent Serb civilians in their support for the Balkan IslamoFascists. The Serbs have been on the front lines of civilization fighting Islam for a thousand years. >>

"Cli'ton and the 'DemocRATS'" AND their Neo-Axis charter member Tiny Bloody Blair [And their Neo-Soviet, Neo-Axis Euro-peon mates] -- having picked up from where Herr Shickelgruber knocked off 50 years earlier -- jointly and severally and collectively murdered those Serbs.

And as the world's then most dangerous dullard observed around that time, them "leopards don't change their stripes!"


47 posted on 09/13/2004 9:49:52 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a hyphenated American -- An AMERICAN-American -- AND A Dollar-a-Day FReeper!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Muslims will never change their murderous ways. Killing them wholesale is the only way to clean-up the collective mess that is Islam.

5000 years of recorded history proves that "Peace" can never be "negotiated"; the losers must beg for it.

48 posted on 09/13/2004 9:49:57 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: MegaSilver
It is almost beyond comprehension that the 1400 year old ravings of a maniacal lunatic are the basis for a religion with over 1 Billion followers.
49 posted on 09/13/2004 9:50:02 AM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Ethan_Allen1777

Ping


50 posted on 09/13/2004 9:53:06 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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