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To: bayourod; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
Faris sounds like a textbook case of a xenophobe. Since he hates "rich" people who live in gated communities and enjoy golf, he probably is in a lower income class and fears competition from immigrant laborers willing to work longer and harder than him.

Why these immigrant laborers are willing to work harder, longer and for less money? Is their hard and low paid work benefiting golf-players from gated communities or lower income American poor?

42 posted on 09/14/2004 5:03:44 AM PDT by A. Pole (Madeleine Albright:"We are the indispensable nation. We stand tall. We see further into the future.")
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Criminal activity is A-OK with Asa if its benefitting his country club cronies.


45 posted on 09/14/2004 5:10:16 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Since he hates "rich" people who live in gated communities and enjoy golf, he probably is in a lower income class and fears competition from

Yes -- nothing inconsistent in that --- while the well-to-do soccer moms from gated communities leave their poor low-wage illegal servants to clean her house and be the cheap live-in nanny for her kids while she can go off to play tennis all day, it's the lower income types who must pay the free education and health care for the servants of the would be elite. It's costing the working types too much because others are too good to make their own beds or wash their own dishes.

Things would change if the employers of these dirt-poor servants suddenly had to pay the cost of education and health care.

46 posted on 09/14/2004 5:31:07 AM PDT by FITZ
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"Is their (illegal migrant workers) hard and low paid work benefiting golf-players from gated communities or lower income American poor?"

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Answer: Yes.

From the employer's financial perspective, the illegal migrant worker is the worker of choice - the hired hand you want when you can get away with it.

FORMULA: 3 illegal migrants = 1 US citizen in labor costs.
* No health insurance costs.
* No retirement plan costs.
* No FICA, state, or local taxes costs.
* Very little complaining about work conditions.
* Will work 12 hours with only a one hour break.
* Can be terminated on a moment's notice with no legal ramifications or lawsuits.
* Little to no training costs.
* Ultra-flexible - can work rigorous shifts/laid off/recalled/worked/laid off with very little complaining.
* Up to one half less expensive in hourly wages.
The list of benefits for hiring illegal migrant workers is much longer than this, these are just for starters.

48 posted on 09/14/2004 5:45:26 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (50 days until November 2nd)
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"Is their hard and low paid work benefiting golf-players from gated communities or lower income American poor? "

Class warfare? When you sign up for retraining perhaps you should consider a course in macroeconomics.

65 posted on 09/14/2004 10:09:32 AM PDT by bayourod (Kerry's promise not to act until attacked gives the terrorists carte blanch to attack.)
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"Rounding up all illegals 'not realistic' " (Page 1, Friday) by Jerry Seper: Asa Hutchinson has once again clearly demonstrated that he is not up to the task of protecting the U.S. borders.

And this is the man who is said to be in line for the Homeland Security Director's job in a Bush second term.

Scary.

77 posted on 09/14/2004 11:17:09 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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Thanx for the ping. Well, I know you can never stop 100% but that still doe not mean that you sit on your butt and don't try to stop it. It's like the 67 year old bank guard with a 1950's era revolver, sure he might not stop 10 Al-Qaida terrorists if thet choose to rush in at once but he can stop most other threats and robberies. We need to stop illegal immigration, not only in the jobs sense but for national security too.


85 posted on 09/14/2004 2:31:56 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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Why of course, they are benefiting the golf crowd and the rest of the sobby upper crust who would rather violate the law to save them money than pay more for legal workers. How else are they going to keep their green fees down at their country clubs, and their home association fees down while they pay little for mowing and lawn maintenance and anything else they can get the illegals to do on the cheap.

Are these the same CEOs and executives that can't fully offshore all of their work to save their corporations money that they themselves can pocket a percentage?

My gosh, if they can't undercut legal domestic workers overseas, the least they can do is allow illegal immigrantion so that CEOs and the likes can economize, too!


119 posted on 09/18/2004 12:11:12 AM PDT by Jerr (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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