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Suddenly, everyone's turning against us Baby Boomers
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 9/14/04 | RAY MCALLISTER

Posted on 09/14/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by qam1

Whoa! What's happening?

Why are people turning on us?

We're the Baby Boomers, you know.

The Mighty Boomers.

We invented everything from money to music to sex, did we not? Nothing good ever happened until we came along.

Now people are turning on us.

We Baby Boomers are being made to feel . . . guilty.

Ridiculous, isn't it?

People have tried to make us feel guilty before. They said we consumed too much. Or we were too shallow. Or we only thought about ourselves.

Excuuuuse me.

Who should we think about? Somebody else?

All that was just jealousy. Even Tom Brokaw came along and said the World War II generation was "the greatest." Jealousy. Pure jealousy.

Sure, they saved the world.

Did they ever throw a party like Woodstock?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aginghippie; babyboomers; bsboomers; generationi; generationme; generationsponge; genselfabsorbed; genx; issueswithtparents; spoiledbrats; spoiledestgeneration; the60sareover; woodstock
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To: cyncooper
People who identify themselves based on a generational stereotype are losers

You can say that again.

People who identify themselves based on a generational stereotype are losers

Louder.

People who identify themselves based on a generational stereotype are losers

181 posted on 09/14/2004 11:43:40 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Little Bill
We scattered our seed to the wind and produced your generation, the most conservitive in generations, don't kick our s*it around if it wasn't for us you would be Voting Rat.

"Scattered your seed into the wind..." Well, at least that's an honest statement, judging by the number of single-parent homes that raised my generation. BTW, the Gen X conservative swing is a REBELLION against our childhood. We know first-hand how destructive Democrap is to a society and we're fighting that force.

I'm NOT advocating dumping all Boomers out on their @$$es when they're too old to do anything about it. I'm saying that the Boomers need to voluntarily make sacrifices in their old age, as they can, for the good of the generations to come. If you don't, you're SCREWING your own children and grandchildren. How can you live with that? I have children and the last thing I want to do is benefit while they suffer. Why don't the Boomers have the same attitude?

182 posted on 09/14/2004 11:45:14 AM PDT by Marie (I want to be queeeeeen, just like like Hillary! 8 - ))
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

>Our ability to save for our own retirement will be hampered by the Big Boomer Suck that will happening just when we most need to be putting aside for our futures. I have YET to hear from ANY Boomer that they're concerned about the future of their offspring.<

Here's one. I'd be glad to hear your advice on how this Boomer family is going to save for a lavish retirement, footing the private school tuition for our 15 year old. We aren't EVEN talking college, yet.

Oh, yeah, and our wills are set up that should the 2 of us get run over by the same semi, she'll be well on her way to a secure future. I'm sure glad SHE doesn't think the way some of you youngsters do.

She's being taught that you care for your kids, so they can care for theirs. Just because you inherit an estate, it doesn't mean you squander it on yourself.


183 posted on 09/14/2004 11:45:59 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I'm with you. The Baby Boomers aren't going to do anything that the WW II generation hasn't already done in spades.
184 posted on 09/14/2004 11:46:01 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Marie
If you don't, you're SCREWING your own children and grandchildren. How can you live with that? I have children and the last thing I want to do is benefit while they suffer. Why don't the Boomers have the same attitude?

My dear Marie, Boomers with children, by and large, have the same attitude as you.

I won't speak for Boomers without children.

185 posted on 09/14/2004 11:48:45 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Trust but Verify
The federal bureaucracy and liberal establish do not have power in and of themselves, they have the power bestowed by voters who think it's someone else's responsibility to take care of them.

As someone who will retire in a few years, I don't really care if they do away with the social security system altogether. It has become nothing but a slush fund for greedy bureaucrats. I would rather die hungry than see this country continue to slide toward socialism.

186 posted on 09/14/2004 11:49:53 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
What planet do you live on? I want to move there.

When I came out of law school in 2000, freshly minted JD's were making $165,000 a year (more, in some cases) at large law firms. Accountants could expect to make $50K plus to start. MBA's could make as much as lawyers, plus the potential for a lot more, very quickly (DLJ was promising its new MBA's $1,000,0000 over their first two years). I knew people from the Cornell Hotel School that were landing high 5-figure salaries with just an undergrad education. Engineers can certainly expect to make well above $60K in well less than 20 years. Nurses will certainly make more than $60K within 5 or so years of getting out of school.

Hell, even a guy who starts his own landscaping company with not much more than a high school degree can make a boatload of money.

I could go on, but I think you get the point.

187 posted on 09/14/2004 11:50:34 AM PDT by Modernman (Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.)
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To: skeeter
Crap. I fell in anyway...

LOL! I know how you feel!

188 posted on 09/14/2004 11:51:18 AM PDT by Marie (I want to be queeeeeen, just like like Hillary! 8 - ))
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To: Ciexyz
I'd like to express my appreciation to the Gen-X and Gen-Y people who are paying for my retirement. It is much appreciated. I imagine that as I sit here in leisure, playing on FR, and going to my volunteer work, that you all are slaving away on the job. Well, thanks again.

I'm glad you said that.I retired 5 years ago at the age of 54. The Gen whatevers don't support me though. I love being retired and wish I could have done it 30 years sooner.

I do what I want to do when I want to do it, I haven't heard an alarm clock go off in 5 years.

Gotta go now, I feel a nap coming on.

189 posted on 09/14/2004 11:52:08 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: mandingo republican
You were the first American generation that hated your country - that spit on the efforts of your father's fighting in WW2 - you spit upon the lifestyle of plenty that gave you comfort and safety in the 1950s - and you helped betray your country in a stupor of drugs, sex, and a victory for communism in Vietnam.

Our generation fought vietnam and the politicians turned their backs on us and screwed us over in the first war fought on TV with socialists like walter conkrite telling people what to think. You have the benefit of the internet which boomers gave you for your news so you have a fighting chance against the commie media. Many did do drugs and sex and start feminism but all gens make mistakes.

You have idolized Castro and the Sandanista - along with Annie Hall and woody Allen when Star Wars should've won the Oscar that year. For that alone I hate your generation.

bullcrap!!!!! Most of us were working our asses off to get ahead. The commie media gave us that and told most idiots what to think.

Finally you gave us Clinton and Gore and Tipper and now Kerry.

Once again we have had to battle the commie media that ruled and they are the ones that elected the basterd slick. After that the internet kicked in and many of the unbrainwashed boomers are doing their part to fight back

you gave us bad music in the 70s and 80s and Woodstock became a parody of what you are

. You gave us rap and you call our music bad? Rap is much worse for society then our music was.

You became useful idiots for the Soviets - you allowed Phil Donahue to stay on the air.

The greatest gen gave us the soviets. We won the cold war by electing RR.

You became me me me in the 1970s and Yuppies in the 80s - you dumbed downed society and you dressed down the culture. You altered the English language with your Ms. and your PC verbal hysteria.

Once again you are blaming us for the socialist foundation that was set down before us by the commie media and we are starting to fight back thanks to the internet.

You gave us AIDS. Your generation also unleashed the killing of the unborn and you gave us bad TV like Maud, Mash, Murphy Brown, and Thirtysomething. You are the face of Hillary and the greed and the powerhungry dysfunctional Godless selves you all are. You deserve what you get. You boomer people suck!

This is all too stupid to waste time replying to except for abortion which we did not give you. Many took advantage of it and that is a horrible terrific mistake and I wish I could change it. But once again it was given to us by the black robed, black souled judicial activists. If it had been put to a vote it would never have been allowed. Even today I bet it would not be allowed. Remeber too that probaly only 33% of the boomers were responsible for the ills you claim. It was the power of the mass media which was controlled by commies that gave the minority the voice to overcome the will of the people. Thank the good Lord for the internet which gives your gen the chance to fight back.

190 posted on 09/14/2004 11:52:44 AM PDT by winodog (JFK is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways)
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To: Cagey

I did watch it! I really wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the fact that a lot of the boomer generation was spoiled by their parents. Of course I wasn't talking about myself either although I don't think any of us know what it's like to do without or suffer.


191 posted on 09/14/2004 11:55:53 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
HUH? It won't go "two ways" for us either! It will be broke before we get to collect 1% of what we've paid in. And incidentally...we managed to raise you kids and PAY all the bills, too.

And we'll pay all the bills, provide for our children's education, pay for our own retirement and make Mom comfortable in her old age directly out of pocket. What's really neat is that many of my generation are staying home with the kids to give them the stable childhood that we were denied, so we get to do all of the above on one income.

The Boomers will have SS. They'll guarantee it just by sheer numbers. (Younger Boomers may be sucking hind teet, though.)

192 posted on 09/14/2004 11:56:12 AM PDT by Marie (I want to be queeeeeen, just like like Hillary! 8 - ))
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To: qam1

----All that was just jealousy. Even Tom Brokaw came along and said the World War II generation was "the greatest." Jealousy. Pure jealousy.
Sure, they saved the world.
Did they ever throw a party like Woodstock?----




193 posted on 09/14/2004 11:56:58 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Halliburton RULES.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

While most of us have done that, there are a lot of boomers who just think they are owed everything. Of course they are mostly liberals too!


194 posted on 09/14/2004 11:57:19 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: texastoo
Tell that to GW Bush. I have read most of this thread and see alot of disagreement between the Gen x, Gen y and boomers. The thing I don't see is any mention of The Totalization Treaty with Mexico.

Don't get me started.

This kind of attitude among the current political generation, that they can give entitlements without any real cost to themselves, are what really burn up GenX folks who seem to be the group most keenly aware of how much this is going to cost them personally, because they will be footing the majority of the bill.

It is crap like this that feeds the angst (evident in this thread) of GenX. The GenX and younger folks strongly tend fiscal conservative, and that neither party is interested in shutting down the gravy train leaves them without a party they are really happy with.

It has come up time and again in discussions in my daily life (and the majority of the business people I interact with are GenX it seems): the current political system looks very much like two groups of Boomers fighting over a gravy train they created by spending the money of future generations. This is a pervasive impression of GenX age people no matter which party they nominally affiliate themselves with.

195 posted on 09/14/2004 11:57:44 AM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: stuckinloozeeana

LOL, SHE KNEW.

Soilent green!


196 posted on 09/14/2004 11:57:56 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Marie
What's really neat is that many of my generation are staying home with the kids to give them the stable childhood that we were denied, so we get to do all of the above on one income.

Are you under the impression that that is an original concept to YOUR generation?

197 posted on 09/14/2004 11:58:01 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: tcostell

No kidding! I wish I had kept my big mouth shut!


198 posted on 09/14/2004 11:58:21 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: mandingo republican

I think many of you have been brainwashed by the MSM and the hollyweird crowd. I was born in 1945. I have been
conservative all my life.

Most of the junk you are collectively dumping on the boomers was actually coming from the priveleged on campuses such as those in CA-same places the anti american crap comes from today.

Abortion was not boomer's fault. The Supreme Court did that. I recall being absolutely astonished and convinced that laws would be passed to return to sanity, but the court continued to knock down the laws.

8.7 Million Boomers volunteered for service in Vietnam.

The social programs were started by FDR and increased by LBJ and boomers weren't even old enough to vote. I did not even know about Woodstock and no one I knew would have attended if we had known. The people in flyover country never ever went along with all that liberal hippie freak stuff.

And it is not helpful to lump all the elderly people into some rich selfish group either. My Dad worked until age
78, and never ever took a hand out. He would still be working, but he had a stroke and then 4 way bypass. I quit
my job to stay home and take care of him.He is poor financially, but a wonderful person who volunteered in our community all his life.

I worked my way through college and never had a student loan, pell grant or any other hand out. My point is that class warfare and generational warfare is something I would expect of the radical left; I am disappointed to read it here.

I thought freepers were smarter than this, and also had better manners. MSM and the liberals have really succeeded in tarnishing the boomers and it appears many have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.


199 posted on 09/14/2004 11:58:48 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: wbill
Bluntly, I think it was a desire to get laid. I think that most men would put up with almost anything in the pursuit of sex. But I'm a pessimist.

You may be on to something. PJ O'rourke described liberal men as guys who allow women to lead them around by their willies like little pull toys.

Women used to be more conservative than men. What Democrats have succeeded in doing is to use the natural female maternal instinct to turn the federal bureaucracy into the nanny state.

200 posted on 09/14/2004 12:00:08 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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