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THE FIRST RATHERGATE,The CBS Anchor's precarious relationship with the truth
Nationalreviewonline ^ | Sept. 15,2004 | Anne Morse

Posted on 09/15/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by kingattax

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To: kellynla; Grampa Dave

That's how C BS got it's infamous name... It stands for Chronkite's BS!!! (blatant sh!t)


21 posted on 09/15/2004 10:07:44 AM PDT by SierraWasp (God Bless AMERICA...The most exceptional nation ever to exist on EARTH!!! (except to Demonicrats)
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To: Flora McDonald

Ping!


22 posted on 09/15/2004 10:08:37 AM PDT by talleyman (Dan Rather is the love child of Josef Stalin & Matta Hari and James Carville is a space alien - E.T.)
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To: kingattax
I remember the original showing so well and what a load it was then and now. As bogus as it seemed at the time, little did I know it was 100% faked. Rather has a real history unfoldibng of LIES perpetrated on the public.
23 posted on 09/15/2004 10:09:56 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: kellynla
The only major communist offensive of the war, Tet in 1968, was a total military failure,but it had some political success in the US with all the leftist commie sympathizers that unfortunately had the ablility to breathe at the time.
24 posted on 09/15/2004 10:10:15 AM PDT by kingattax (Proud pajama-wearing FReeper)
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To: kingattax

P.S. - So we need to update our slogan to "Dan Rather Lied - AGAIN!"


25 posted on 09/15/2004 10:10:34 AM PDT by talleyman (Dan Rather is the love child of Josef Stalin & Matta Hari and James Carville is a space alien - E.T.)
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To: kingattax

Dan Rather also reported as a fact that the ones who released the story about Bill Clinton being disbarred were Republlican dirty tricksters. When the truth came out, he never retracted his statement.


26 posted on 09/15/2004 10:17:10 AM PDT by techcor
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To: SierraWasp

Blather, Chronkite, Kerri, Fonda, Ramsey Clark, Hayden and a trainload of elite mediots and lunatic lefty politicians made their reputation lying about our military in Nam.

Now the buzzards are coming home to pick the bones of these lying POS!


27 posted on 09/15/2004 10:17:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: kingattax
When the chips were down, you could not count on Dan Rather."

Dan Rather is a "chip", in the cattle ranch sense of the word.

28 posted on 09/15/2004 10:18:49 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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If this story was faked, how many others.....


29 posted on 09/15/2004 10:19:39 AM PDT by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: kingattax

So consider this coincidence:
The latest Rathergate is an attempt to help John Kerry by smearing President Bush.

The first Rathergate was a smear on Vietnam Vets, exactly what John Kerry had done 17 years earlier.

Make sure this doesn't go unnoticed.
Remind people of Kerry's lies against Vietnam Vets whenever possible.


30 posted on 09/15/2004 10:20:32 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Travis McGee; idkfa
Travis, below is some of the earliest lies about seals, by Blather and CBS. idkfa thanks for posting this. "One of the most ingrained stereotypes that plague the 3.3 million Americans who served in Vietnam is the tainted image of the Vietnam vet as scruffy, jobless, homeless, mentally unstable, addicted, suicidal, and stranded on the fringes of society. It is an image that has been reinforced by innumerable TV dramas, movies, and newscasts. It is also usually tied to stories about the horrors of war, atrocities, and other dark deeds that, allegedly, have caused these personal problems for the tragic vet. The highly hyped 1988 CBS program, "The Wall Within," purporting to tackle the issue of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), is a perfect example of the lies and distortions about Vietnam that have been fed to three generations of Americans. The program profiled six pathetic victims who it claimed were "representative" of those who served in Vietnam. It claimed that the symptoms suffered by these men were shared by hundreds of thousands of other veterans. The Dan Rather "documentary" became part of the CBS video history series on Vietnam and is graced with a formal introduction by liberal-left one-worlder Walter Cronkite. This is how Dan Rather introduced his TV audience to one of his prize victims: "At age 16, Steve was a Navy SEAL, trained to assassinate. For almost two years, he operated behind enemy lines, then he broke. He came home in a straightjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs." According to the CBS propaganda piece, "Steve" had been trained to massacre and mutilate Vietnamese civilians and then blame the atrocities on the Communists. "You’re telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done this?" Rather asked. "Yeah," Steve responded. "For propaganda purposes at home," Rather added. "That’s correct," Steve confirmed. Terry Bradley, another supposed Vietnam vet suffering from PTSD, told a grisly tale of having, on one occasion, skinned alive up to 50 Vietnamese men, women and children. He told of cutting out hearts and eyeballs, of mangling and stacking their bloody bodies. The CBS program showed the mentally tormented vet at night in a dark forest howling at the sky. Another PTSD victim, George Greul, told the CBS team that he had been traumatized by witnessing his friend’s gruesome death on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier while the ship was on a "secret mission" off the coast of Vietnam. He had seen his buddy accidentally walk into a spinning propeller blade and had been spattered with his blood. The critically acclaimed "Wall Within" was a colossal fraud. The man identified as "Steve" turned out to be one Steve Southards, and through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, Burkett obtained his military records. The truth, he found, was that "Southards was not a SEAL, nor had he taken any SEAL training.... In reality, Southards was an ‘internal communications repairman,’ assigned to rear area bases and had no combat decorations. His only special training was a ‘motion picture operation course (16mm),’ at Subic Bay in the Philippines." What’s more, he had spent time in the brig for going AWOL six times. According to Burkett’s research, "Little that Southards had told Rather was true except that he had been in the Navy, and that his first name was Steve." Terry Bradley was not a "fighting sergeant," as Dan Rather had described him, but another storytelling misfit who had spent 300 days either AWOL or in the stockade. No evidence was provided by CBS, and Burkett could find none either, from official sources or otherwise, to verify Bradley’s tales of mass atrocities. George Greul’s carrier, the Ticonderoga, was deployed on a training mission off the coast of California, not a "secret mission" off the coast of Vietnam, when the fatal propeller accident he referred to took place. But Greul was not present when the accident happened; he was merely repeating what he had heard. However, his story had convinced the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) that he had been sufficiently traumatized to receive a couple thousand dollars a month in compensation.
31 posted on 09/15/2004 10:21:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: kellynla
we never lost a battle during the Viet Nam war.

Well, you might be interested to know that most people of my generation don't know that fact. (The people born after 1973)

I was surprised to find out that the US military withdrew from Vietnam in 1973, but the communists did not take over South Vietnam until 1975.

The way my liberal teachers talked about Vietnam, it sounded like coward American servicemen fled in front of the heroic communist guerrillas.

The liberally-indoctrinated teachers and professors have re-written history, but the students are less docile lately. The Internet has taught my generation to be skeptical about these "history" and "political science" lessons.

32 posted on 09/15/2004 10:22:24 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: N. Theknow
(can't remember if it was Rather or Mike Wallace)

Mike Wallace.

It was an easy thing to say as his son, Chris Wallace, (Fox) was not of draft age during Vietnam.

33 posted on 09/15/2004 10:24:03 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: blue jeans

As I recall it was some sort of incendiary rocket attached to the gas tank of a Chevy pick-up truck to make sure it exploded on camera. But I digress! Don't forget ABC's Food Lion report a few years back where "journalists" got jobs in the meat department and thay were the ones who salted in the outdated meat, not the Food Lion employees as the TV "journalists" claimed. And then wasn't there some woman "journalist" who put together some whopper lie about B-52 bombers. I'm fuzzy on that one.

But in all those cases the stories faded never to be heard from again unlike Abu Garrib, Bush's Guard service, Iran Contra etc. etc.. Gee I wonder why that is!

34 posted on 09/15/2004 10:25:27 AM PDT by StACase
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To: idkfa
...he [Steve Southards]had spent time in the brig for going AWOL six times.

And those of us who have their name on a "DD214" know how reliable the brig or stockade lizards, such as Southards, were.

35 posted on 09/15/2004 10:33:58 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: SierraWasp
Don't forget the ABC Primetime Live Food Lion Scandal. Food Lion sued and won 5.5 million dollars in damages. Here's a link to a site that deals with media distortion:

Press Room

36 posted on 09/15/2004 10:37:40 AM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: george wythe
we never lost a battle during the Viet Nam war.

" Well, you might be interested to know that most people of my generation don't know that fact."

Well, then perhaps you might be interested in the fact that Lyndon Johnson was telling the American public, during the election of 1964, that he wasn't going to send "American boys to Asia do the fighting that Asian boys should do". At the same time, LBJ was planning to escalate the war with American troops after LBJ's inauguration in 1965. If Saigon fell to the communists before the 1968 election, LBJ would loose a second term.

Vietnam wasn't about Americans fighting communists, Vietnam was about Democrats fighting Republicans. Just as you are witnessing now.

37 posted on 09/15/2004 10:45:59 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: george wythe

Welcome to the real world of facts!

Even the Vietnamese Communist survivors of the war will tell you that they were losing the war in Viet Nam. And if not for Kerry, Fonda and company, the NVA and the VC would have surrendered in 1971!
And you can take that to the bank!!!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


38 posted on 09/15/2004 10:46:05 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Grampa Dave; All

This might be easier to read.



Travis, below is some of the earliest lies about seals, by Blather and CBS. idkfa thanks for posting this.

"One of the most ingrained stereotypes that plague the 3.3 million Americans who served in Vietnam is the tainted image of the Vietnam vet as scruffy, jobless, homeless, mentally unstable, addicted, suicidal, and stranded on the fringes of society.

It is an image that has been reinforced by innumerable TV dramas, movies, and newscasts. It is also usually tied to stories about the horrors of war, atrocities, and other dark deeds that, allegedly, have caused these personal problems for the tragic vet.

The highly hyped 1988 CBS program, "The Wall Within," purporting to tackle the issue of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), is a perfect example of the lies and distortions about Vietnam that have been fed to three generations of Americans.

The program profiled six pathetic victims who it claimed were "representative" of those who served in Vietnam.
It claimed that the symptoms suffered by these men were shared by hundreds of thousands of other veterans.

The Dan Rather "documentary" became part of the CBS video history series on Vietnam and is graced with a formal introduction by liberal-left one-worlder Walter Cronkite.

This is how Dan Rather introduced his TV audience to one of his prize victims: "At age 16, Steve was a Navy SEAL, trained to assassinate. For almost two years, he operated behind enemy lines, then he broke. He came home in a straightjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs."

According to the CBS propaganda piece, "Steve" had been trained to massacre and mutilate Vietnamese civilians and then blame the atrocities on the Communists. "You’re telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done this?" Rather asked.

"Yeah," Steve responded. "For propaganda purposes at home," Rather added. "That’s correct," Steve confirmed. Terry Bradley, another supposed Vietnam vet suffering from PTSD, told a grisly tale of having, on one occasion, skinned alive up to 50 Vietnamese men, women and children.

He told of cutting out hearts and eyeballs, of mangling and stacking their bloody bodies. The CBS program showed the mentally tormented vet at night in a dark forest howling at the sky.

Another PTSD victim, George Greul, told the CBS team that he had been traumatized by witnessing his friend’s gruesome death on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier while the ship was on a "secret mission" off the coast of Vietnam.
He had seen his buddy accidentally walk into a spinning propeller blade and had been spattered with his blood.

The critically acclaimed "Wall Within" was a colossal fraud. The man identified as "Steve" turned out to be one Steve Southards, and through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, Burkett obtained his military records.

The truth, he found, was that "Southards was not a SEAL, nor had he taken any SEAL training.... In reality, Southards was an ‘internal communications repairman,’ assigned to rear area bases and had no combat decorations.
His only special training was a ‘motion picture operation course (16mm),’ at Subic Bay in the Philippines."
What’s more, he had spent time in the brig for going AWOL six times.

According to Burkett’s research, "Little that Southards had told Rather was true except that he had been in the Navy, and that his first name was Steve."

Terry Bradley was not a "fighting sergeant," as Dan Rather had described him, but another storytelling misfit who had spent 300 days either AWOL or in the stockade.

No evidence was provided by CBS, and Burkett could find none either, from official sources or otherwise, to verify Bradley’s tales of mass atrocities.

George Greul’s carrier, the Ticonderoga, was deployed on a training mission off the coast of California, not a "secret mission" off the coast of Vietnam, when the fatal propeller accident he referred to took place. But Greul was not present when the accident happened; he was merely repeating what he had heard.

However, his story had convinced the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) that he had been sufficiently traumatized to receive a couple thousand dollars a month in compensation.


39 posted on 09/15/2004 10:52:10 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi Travis,http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Grampa Dave
Now the buzzards are coming home to pick the bones of these lying POS!

Let's hope so, Dave. It's been a long d*mn war.

40 posted on 09/15/2004 10:54:56 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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