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Russia rejects Powell's criticism, joins forces with Israel
World Tribune ^ | Wednesday, September 15, 2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 10:22:50 AM PDT by priceofreedom

Russia rejects Powell's criticism, joins forces with Israel

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Wednesday, September 15, 2004 HERZLIYA, Israel – While rejecting U.S. and EU criticism of its anti-terrorism reforms, Russia plans to adopt Israel's counter-insurgency methods in Moscow's war against Chechen rebels.

Russian officials said the government in Moscow has agreed to increase security cooperation with Israel and focus on counter-insurgency. The officials said the cooperation would include Israeli training and instruction on a range of issues, including aviation security and civil defense.

"We are being helped by your expertise in the field of aviation security," Vladimir Vasilyev, chairman of the Security Committee of Russia's parliament, told Israeli reporters.

Vasilyev and other Russian officials said security cooperation was already taking place, Middle East Newsline reported. They said teams from both countries were arranging meetings in an effort meant to learn the lessons of the Chechen takeover of a high school in North Ossetia in late August. Nearly 400 people were killed in the hostage episode.

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, in an interview with Reuters, backed liberal criticism in Russia by saying the changes were "pulling back on some of the democratic reforms".

But Russia's foreign minister said Washington had no right to impose its model of democracy on others.

"First of all, the processes that are under way in Russia are our internal affair," Sergei Lavrov said.

"And it is at least strange that, while talking about a certain 'pulling back', as he (Powell) put it, on some of the democratic reforms in the Russian Federation, he tried to assert yet one more time the thought that democracy can only be copied from someone's model," Lavrov said.

Lavrov met Israeli leaders last week and signed an accord meant to pave the way for a joint effort against Islamic insurgency groups.

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I want to express my support that you're giving us to solve security isues," Vasilyev told Israeli reporters at an international conference in Herzliya, which ended on Tuesday. "We will also continue cooperation in the field of protecting public places and will use Israel's experience. To be smarter and tougher, we will have to prepare our citizens." Russian officials said Moscow was also examining the Israeli model of a civil guard, or auxiliary police, that can carry weapons and conduct searches.

They said this would require new legislation.

Israel and Russia also agreed to expand their intelligence exchange, particularly in the area of Islamic insurgency movements, officials said.

Officials said Israel would soon send a delegation of intelligence analysts to Moscow.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chechnya; israel; kissinger; napalminthemorning; nixon; russia; wot; yomkippur
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Now lets see if they will cease to fund and cooperate with Iran on their nuclear goals.
1 posted on 09/15/2004 10:22:50 AM PDT by priceofreedom
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To: priceofreedom

Go Putin!!


2 posted on 09/15/2004 10:25:47 AM PDT by nonliberal (With Specter as Judiciary Chair, how do the Bushbots propose we get a conservative onto the Court?)
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To: priceofreedom

cool,i like russia's (new) way and israel's better then powell's..it's time we started dealing with this.."the great Muslim war"


3 posted on 09/15/2004 10:26:20 AM PDT by rang1995
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To: SJackson

ping for hope


4 posted on 09/15/2004 10:27:20 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: priceofreedom

The terrorists need their own left to say to them, "you're driving our enemies together"


5 posted on 09/15/2004 10:28:21 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: priceofreedom

So Israel wants to take on a "russian" reputation?????


6 posted on 09/15/2004 10:28:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

russian reputation?????

meaning????


7 posted on 09/15/2004 10:30:10 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: priceofreedom

Putin's grab for power makes me nervous, but our government's constant finger shaking is not helping here. We need to give Putin an incentive to retain the democratic reforms, while at the same time joining him in fighting this Islamic menace.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 10:30:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: priceofreedom
President Bush holding up a weekly WORLD TRIBUNE


9 posted on 09/15/2004 10:31:08 AM PDT by freedomson (Baruch habba b'shem Adonai)
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So Israel wants to take on a "russian" reputation?????

The countries will share intelligence and Israel will teach Russian forces how to fight a counter-insurgency. The story says nothing about Russia teaching Israel about how to get stuck in a boondoggle occupation and then back out after public outcry--the Israelis learned about that in Lebanon.

10 posted on 09/15/2004 10:31:43 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: priceofreedom

Good. Powell and State should lay off. Russia will do what it needs to combat terrorism.

I wish W. had more to say in support of Putin and Russia.


11 posted on 09/15/2004 10:31:54 AM PDT by zencat (Magnetic BUSH/CHENEY bumper stickers ---> www.gwbushmagnets.com)
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To: Brilliant

i agree. Powell is always the dove (except when he should be)


12 posted on 09/15/2004 10:32:28 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: priceofreedom; Travis McGee; Jeff Head

the Israeli model of a civil guard, or auxiliary police, that can carry weapons and conduct searches.

They said this would require new legislation.



sounds like a not so bad idea
our people have forgotten this is the purpose of our second amendment. . . every citizen can be his own soldier and soveriegn.

arm yourselves America.
to the friggin teeth.


13 posted on 09/15/2004 10:32:32 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: priceofreedom; All

Throw off the shackles of Political Correctness and victory is assured.


14 posted on 09/15/2004 10:32:50 AM PDT by olde north church (Ever see a photo of James Carville and Gollum standing next to each other?)
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To: freedomson

the aliens were gonna vote for JF'nK before they werent (space suit blamed for change of heart) any1 have those pics?


17 posted on 09/15/2004 10:34:27 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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the aliens were gonna vote for JF'nK before they werent (space suit blamed for change of heart) any1 have those pics?


18 posted on 09/15/2004 10:34:36 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: Brilliant
Putin is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. So is Powell. So is Israel.

The world is lining up, one way or another, against the terrorists who've flunked the 20th century.

19 posted on 09/15/2004 10:34:48 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: priceofreedom
The move is the most logical due to so many Russian speakers in Israel and similarity of the problems.

But in some resent interviews, top Russian officials already said 3 no to Israels polite inquiry (Israelis went so far as to note that its not a request, they were ready to provide any help unconditionally) about Russian help in the Iranian nuclear program, applying some pressure on Syria and cut on support to Arafat.

So, I think Russian government will manage this hypocrisy just fine: will get help from Israel without providing any big steps in return. The only hope is that they will do something behind the scene, maybe...
20 posted on 09/15/2004 10:36:40 AM PDT by Tolik
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