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To: thoughtomator
The Rockefeller laws are hardly tyrannical.

The entire movement against them is basically whining by affluent parents who are upset that their little darling has to do ten years for selling coke in his dorm.

It's not their fault or their kid's fault that their child is a disgusting degenerate who gets his kicks preying on the weakness of others - it's the evil, tyrannical state of New York.

I wonder if you or any of these jokers understands what tyranny actually is.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 5:52:13 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
... I wonder if you or any of these jokers understands what tyranny actually is.

I wonder if you or any of these jokers understands what freedom actually is.

6 posted on 09/16/2004 5:56:10 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: wideawake

The Rockerfeller laws are in plain contravention of the 4th, 5th, and 8th Amendments to the Constitution - amendments constructed with the specific intent of making impossible a repeat of the tyrannical abuses of the King of England. In addition, they are not only a current failure, but prohibition laws are also a historical failure.

What tyranny is, is the failure to respect the inalienable rights of man. What the above-referenced Amendments are, are enumerations of some of those rights. Therefore, the Rockerfeller laws are tyrannical.

If you knew what tyranny is, then you would see as clearly as I do that the Rockerfeller laws are.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 6:09:13 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: wideawake
I wonder if you or any of these jokers understands what tyranny actually is.

Anyone who disagrees with you on the meaning of tyranny is a joker? That's pretty funny, so maybe you are a joker. That is, one who tells jokes. LOL

51 posted on 09/16/2004 7:35:33 AM PDT by Protagoras (Free speech should never be tampered with, AT ALL.)
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To: wideawake

Hail advocate of the Nanny State!

Your arguments are rather Orwellian in nature. Drugs cause its users to commit crimes in order to 'score' more, so we must ban such substances? Ah, no. That is blaming an inanimate object for willful behavior on the part of the user. Charge the user for the burglary, theft, murder, et al, that they have committed, but do not say 'the drugs made them do it'. We are all possesed of free will. These individuals chose to use that free will to get high. Bully for them. I wouldn't do it myself, but hey, that's just me.

Your argments can be used to ban any possibly 'dangerous' substance or object. That makes your argument dangerous to freedom and liberty. Remember, we fought a war based on the concept of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness". The dopers have the dumb idea that getting high makes them happy. Whethter that is an illusion or not is not your or my business. Further, no one made the user take the first toke, hit, or snort of those substances. They chose to to so. Don't blame the drug, blame the user.

And I would use the word 'draconian', not tyrannical, to describe the Rockefeller Laws.


224 posted on 09/16/2004 10:51:58 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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