[Huck]

Searched title. Didn;t see this posted. See Hagel and Lugar comments; I dont think they were in the NY SLimes story.

[Rutles4Ever]

Um... what did they have to say about America's future? (WOOPS! It the MSM!)

[Paleo Conservative]

See Hagel and Lugar comments

Two of my least favorite Republican senators.

[snooker]

May as well go to Paris and draw up surrender plans to al-Quada. Kerry should be able to help with the plan. Maybe he still has the VC version.

[Williams]

Hagel is a real jackass. The ultimate solution in Iraq is through Syria and especially Iran. Difficult as it may be, what radical states will be left after that?

[Use It Or Lose It]

"It’s beyond pitiful, it’s beyond embarrassing, it’s now in the zone of dangerous,” said Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb, of his transparent attempt to garner favors with the left in his bid for the 2008 Presidential nod.

/sarcasm

[silverleaf]

And the shooting stopped in Korea in 1951.

So what is the latest US intelligence estimate about when security will be restored and US troops withdrawn from the Korean peninsula? And what did the estimates say about post-war Korea when Harry Truman launched the attack?

[Zhangliqun]

If I hear the phrase "lack of planning" one more time, some libs and RINO's are flat out going to die en masse.

No-one should be allowed to say those three words EVER AGAIN without having to explain what THEIR plan was/is in excruciating detail, with equally detailed supporting evidence from history rooted in a solid understanding of human nature.

[hflynn]

Don't believe anything from The Main Stream Nerds.

[JeeperFreeper]

Rebuilding a nation almost from scratch takes more than one year and a half. It takes years longer than that to build a skyscraper or stretch of highway. By my observations, there is an uptick in attacks occurring about every 4 months and each time is somewhat less than before. First, Najaf, Baghdad, Fallujah and Basra had increases in attacks. Basra has settled down. Najaf has too since the return of Sistani from Europe and killing thousands of Sadr's thugs. The recent uptick was primarily in Baghdad. Fallujah residents are targeting the foreigners in their midst for air strikes. Bit by bit, the Iraqis are doing the policing themselves. In intercepted communications, Zarqwahi(sp) is beginning to get worried about the steady attrition of his jihadists and withering of his redsources. The Syrian border is geting tighter and tighter. The Marines recently killed many infiltrators. It going to be a long slog, no doubt, but we are winning. We are winning.

[Logical me]

I do agree with some of the high ranking retired military people that we should, with the cooperation of the Iraqi council, give a warning to three cities in Iraq and level them. Circle them first so we can catch the stupid fish as the cowards run.

[Torie]

The fact of the matter is that per the CIA estimate, the Bush administration's more robust goals for Iraq appear increasingly unlikely to be achievable. At some point, the election there will have to be held, however flawed, and then an exit strategy needs to be mapped out, even if it leaves Iraq in a state of civil war or partition. Otherwise, it will indeed be like Vietnam. That is not acceptable. Slamming Hagel does not really address the fundamental issue.

I salute the Bush administration for its robust goals, and support those goals, but as events unfold, and more information is obtained, the cost benefit equation changes, and it is the responsibility of the administration to respond intelligently and objectively to such changed equation.

I should add that while it would be nice if the Bush administration had been more candid that the way events are unfolding is disappointing, I fully appreciate why it would be counterproductive for Bush to exude pessimism at this time, even if pessimism is objectively called for. For the Bush administration to do that would just make the downside predictions a self fulfilling prophecy.

And that is how I see it.

[what's up]

Hagel never misses a chance to bash Bush.

He is an ugly man. Also a McCain supporter. Lugar is weak and this is why he was always lauded in the 90's as a Republican "stateman". Clinton used him to get his policies thru.